And The Benghazi Cover Up Continues !

[delldude]

CIA is in Hampton, VA, not Foggy Bottom.

Maybe he didn't want to draw unwanted attention to his roommates at the "mission".

First CIA HQ was in Foggy Bottom Glen, grew from OSS.

 

[signals]

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[SparrowHawk]

Non-intervention is not a policy. Isolationism does not work in the real world.

Try this rant(d) on for size Sparrow: LOL

"What's wrong with that? To start with, EVERYTHING.

While America's allies should "do more" to provide security, their capabilities are much more limited than America's. There is a limit to what they can do, and it's even more acute than the limits of America's power.

While the European Union has a larger GDP and population than the US, the EU is a flimsy collection of 27 different states without a common leader, military, or foreign policy. Moreover, European countries are in financial straits even more dire than those in which America finds itself. Greece's and Italy's debts exceed their GDP's; France's debt equals 88% of its GDP; Britain's, 80% of GDP.

The limitations of allies' capacity to take up the slack is even more acutely visible in the Pacific Rim.

The biggest threat to that region's, America's, and its Pacific allies' security – China – has a far larger economy, population, territory, industrial base, industrial production capacity, quantity of mineral resources, standing military, and military budget than Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, the Philippines, Singapore, Vietnam, Australia, and New Zealand COMBINED.

Not to mention the fact that China has at least 1,800, and potentially up to 3,000, nuclear weapons, while none of these countries have a single nuke or ballistic missile and, with the sole exception of Japan, none of them have a missile defense system of any kind.

And the fact that China is now developing two 5th generation stealthy fightertypes, while none of these countries have any, the fact that China has an aircraft carrier (and is building more) while they have none… the list goes on.

Even if all of these nations overcame their mutual animosities and all worked together to defend themselves against China, they would still utterly fail and be easily subjugated by China – which is exactly what China, with its hegemonistic ambitions and its fervently nationalist leaders, soldiers, and citizens aims to do.

Even if all of these nations, currently troubled by China's aggressive behavior and bellicose rhetoric, joined together to defend each other, they would still be nothing but mere speedbumps for the People's Liberation Army (the Chinese military).

The only country which can stand up to the Chinese (and Russian) juggernaut and defend these countries – and the world's sealanes, on which the entire world economy, including that of the US, depends – is the United States.

Furthermore, if the US dumps its allies, many, if not most, of them, will develop their own nuclear arsenals. (66.5% of South Koreans already want Seoul to do so, given the North Korean threat.)

You may ask "but why does that matter? Who cares if China subjugates all of these countries, what Iran and North Korea do, if they acquire nukes? Who cares?"

The answer is: because it will directly impact America's economy and national security.

North Korea now has two types of ICBMs (Taepodong-2 and KN-08) capable of targeting the US and is able to mate nuclear warheads to them. One nuclear warhead detonated above the US would create an EMP strike crippling the entire US. That is a direct threat to US security.

If North Korea overruns South Korea, that will give Pyongyang a new platform from which to launch aggression against the US and other countries in the Pacific Rim.

If China attacks key American economic partners like Japan, the world's third largest economy and one of America's biggest trade partners, that will directly and negatively impact the US economy.

If China gets its hand on the rich oil and gas resources in the South China sea, those resources will be denied to the US and its allies.

If China turns the Western Pacific into its internal lake as it desires to, American merchant ships will not be secure there. That will directly impact the US economy.

If China continues to expand its already-large nuclear, ICBM, and SLBM/SSBN arsenal and build more aircraft carriers and submarines, that will only increase the direct threat that China poses to the US.

If Iran blocks the Strait of Hormuz, through which a large chunk of America's oil and 30% of the world's oil goes, this will immediately, directly, and negatively impact America's economy and national security.

If Iran acquires nuclear weapons, other Persian Gulf states will race to do the same, and we will see a nuclear arms race in the region of the world in which we can least afford it. And a nuclear- and ICBM-armed Iran will pose a direct threat to US national security.

No, the US cannot afford to just withdraw its troops from the world, retrench behind oceans, cut its defense budget and its military, and pretend that the crocodile won't come to eat it. This would be like an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand while exposing its butt. And that butt will eventually be kicked."

http://www.conservat...y-another-name/

A policy of Non-Intervention would look something like

No US Military will be placed in harms way in an offensive capacity without a formal declaration of war from the Congress. This does NOT mean total withdrawal from the world. How many lives would have been saved had we had this simple policy in place.over the last 20 years.

The COTUS clearly stated "Provide for the common defense". This is generally construed to apply to the geographical confines of the United States.

With the US no longer serving as the worlds;de defacto police force we would level the economic playing field.for us as other nations would have to use a portion of their GDP for national defense.

We do not need 43 bases surrounding a nation we are not formally at war with. (IRAN)

When you intervene in a sovereign nations internal affairs you get a huge volume of what the CIA calls "Blow Back". Best example is the 1953 overthrow of Iran's democratically elected government and the installation of the Shah and his brutal regime. We are still paying for this, having to maintain 43 bases around Iran. This only increases the threat of nuclear war.

Kennedy went nose to nose, eyeball to eyeball with the USSR in 1962 and prevented war. Now diplomacy seems to be the last resort.

I'm not advocating that we just retreat into the sunset. We just need to rethink how the COTUS ad the modern world can best be served.

 

[eolesen]

CIA is in Hampton, VA, not Foggy Bottom.

First CIA HQ was in Foggy Bottom Glen, grew from OSS.

That's great, but I was referring to State. They're in Foggy Bottom.

 

[delldude]

That's where Wilbur was caught chasing Fanny........

 

[700UW]

 

[delldude]

Cool, what bearing does that have on Obama and Hillary concocting lies to the American people and worse, the families of the soldiers who died there?

Maybe you could go out on a limb and source why there was no Congressional hearings under Bush when Dems controlled both houses?

 

[signals]

Dell quit blinding the Hillary-loving-Bush-hating-Bush's-fault crowd with the facts

 

[southwind]

Schunkin' and a Jivin' !

 

[SparrowHawk]

Who is Dick Cheney and George W. Bush???

Their not in an elected office are they?

 

[southwind]

I told you, when the crap starts to hit the fan, BaRack and his minions only have 2 rebuttals, Bush and racist !

 

[SparrowHawk]

Q:Why did the chicken cross the road?
A: Bush made him do it and you're a racist.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Stick to drama. It's funnier than your comedy.

 

[southwind]

Stick to drama. It's funnier than your comedy.

It's Bush's fault........................feel better now ?

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Benghazi attack suspects identified

By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 5/21/13 4:02 PM EDT
WASHINGTON — The U.S. has identified five men who might be responsible for the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, last year, and has enough evidence to justify seizing them by military force as suspected terrorists, officials say. But there isn't enough proof to try them in a U.S. civilian court as the Obama administration prefers.

The men remain at large while the FBI gathers evidence. But the investigation has been slowed by the reduced U.S. intelligence presence in the region since the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks, and by the limited ability to assist by Libya's post-revolutionary law enforcement and intelligence agencies, which are still in their infancy since the overthrow of dictator Col. Moammar Gadhafi.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/benghazi-attack-suspects-identified-91688.html#ixzz2TxjLJkFY