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I am not an eco warrior or very green. I try to evaluate what I see and what I think I know, and then come to a conclusion. Pollution is not a natural or good thing. The using up of the earth resources at the rate we are, is not a good thing. If the Euro carbon tax will help, I dont know. In a sense, that is not important, in light of the political tax issue on flights over Europe.
I had to research, and found a web site that compares what is a liberal and what is a conservative in the US. Yes and proud. I do not beleave that it is right that bankers and CEOs should walk away with my hard earned cash.
How much does the US fossil industry spends paying off politicians, ops!! Im mean lobby, so that they can get the message over to the voters? (= brainwash)
I sometimes have doubts about Democracy, especially what it has become, and where its going. For good or for bad, Democracy is what have, for the present.
Now, the bottom line. I am told that USA is Democracy .We in Europe think were Democracies. 27 of us have banded together to form the EU. We rarely agree on much.
But an effort to reduce carbon emissions over OUR skies is something weve managed to agree on. If it will work, again I dont know. We do NOT need permission from some of you, Hilary Clinton, the US Senate or the North American Airline industry (how much money did they spend lobbying?) to place this on OUR law books. So who really practices Dictatorship and Democracy?
So somebody wants us screwed. Not worth talking about, but fine.
You dont want to fly to Europe. Fine
For the isolationists. You really need to get out a bit more. Book a flight to the moon and look at OUR planet Earth. Cheaper, buy a poster from NASA. But if you think that youre the only one on the planet or the rest of us don't matter, fine
You dont need Mass Transit systems in North America but belittle ours. Fine.
By the way, we have our very own Disney, which is served a high-speed rail link, as well as public transport. The French run it. But fine.
Some of you feel you should retaliate. How? By using the same law in the US. Fine
Democracy at work. Fine
Must be more lies from the libtards or I’ll just stick my head in sand
Visit www.citymayors.com/environment/polluted_uscities.html
Democracy at work
From wikipedia
"Energy lobby" is the umbrella term used to name the paid representatives of large fossil fuel (oil, gas, coal) and electric utilities corporations who attempt to influence governmental policy. So-called Big Oil companies such as ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Total S.A., Koch Industries, Chevron Corporation, and ConocoPhillips are amongst the largest corporations associated with the energy lobby. General Electric, Southern Co., First Energy, and the Edison Electric Institute are among the influential electric utilities corporations. Both electric companies and big oil and gas companies are consistently among the ten highest-spending industrial lobbyists.In the 2006 election cycle, oil and gas companies contributed over $19 million to political campaigns. 82% of that money went to Republican candidates, while the remaining 18% went to Democrats. In 2004, oil and gas companies contributed over $25 million to political campaigns, donating 80% of that money to Republicans. In the 2000 elections, over $34 million was contributed, with 78% of that money going to Republicans. Electric utilities also heavily favor Republicans; their contributions have recently ranged between $15-20 million. From 2003-2006, the energy lobby also contributed $58.3 million to state-level campaigns. By comparison, alternative energy interests contributed around half a million dollars in the same time period.
I am not an eco warrior or very green. I try to evaluate what I see and what I think I know, and then come to a conclusion. Pollution is not a natural or good thing. The using up of the earth resources at the rate we are, is not a good thing. If the Euro carbon tax will help, I dont know. In a sense, that is not important, in light of the political tax issue on flights over Europe.
I had to research, and found a web site that compares what is a liberal and what is a conservative in the US. Yes and proud. I do not beleave that it is right that bankers and CEOs should walk away with my hard earned cash.
How much does the US fossil industry spends paying off politicians, ops!! Im mean lobby, so that they can get the message over to the voters? (= brainwash)
I sometimes have doubts about Democracy, especially what it has become, and where its going. For good or for bad, Democracy is what have, for the present.
Now, the bottom line. I am told that USA is Democracy .We in Europe think were Democracies. 27 of us have banded together to form the EU. We rarely agree on much.
But an effort to reduce carbon emissions over OUR skies is something weve managed to agree on. If it will work, again I dont know. We do NOT need permission from some of you, Hilary Clinton, the US Senate or the North American Airline industry (how much money did they spend lobbying?) to place this on OUR law books. So who really practices Dictatorship and Democracy?
So somebody wants us screwed. Not worth talking about, but fine.
You dont want to fly to Europe. Fine
For the isolationists. You really need to get out a bit more. Book a flight to the moon and look at OUR planet Earth. Cheaper, buy a poster from NASA. But if you think that youre the only one on the planet or the rest of us don't matter, fine
You dont need Mass Transit systems in North America but belittle ours. Fine.
By the way, we have our very own Disney, which is served a high-speed rail link, as well as public transport. The French run it. But fine.
Some of you feel you should retaliate. How? By using the same law in the US. Fine
Democracy at work. Fine
Must be more lies from the libtards or I’ll just stick my head in sand
Visit www.citymayors.com/environment/polluted_uscities.html
Democracy at work
From wikipedia
"Energy lobby" is the umbrella term used to name the paid representatives of large fossil fuel (oil, gas, coal) and electric utilities corporations who attempt to influence governmental policy. So-called Big Oil companies such as ExxonMobil, Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Total S.A., Koch Industries, Chevron Corporation, and ConocoPhillips are amongst the largest corporations associated with the energy lobby. General Electric, Southern Co., First Energy, and the Edison Electric Institute are among the influential electric utilities corporations. Both electric companies and big oil and gas companies are consistently among the ten highest-spending industrial lobbyists.In the 2006 election cycle, oil and gas companies contributed over $19 million to political campaigns. 82% of that money went to Republican candidates, while the remaining 18% went to Democrats. In 2004, oil and gas companies contributed over $25 million to political campaigns, donating 80% of that money to Republicans. In the 2000 elections, over $34 million was contributed, with 78% of that money going to Republicans. Electric utilities also heavily favor Republicans; their contributions have recently ranged between $15-20 million. From 2003-2006, the energy lobby also contributed $58.3 million to state-level campaigns. By comparison, alternative energy interests contributed around half a million dollars in the same time period.
