MarkMyWords
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My pal PitBull made the following comment in a previous thread:
"Management is on a "discipline spree". They are disciplining folks across the system up to termination very quickly. Again, the unions will grieve until the unions merge or go bankrupt.
UNION BUSTING AT ITS FINEST...THAT IS WHY IT IS A BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS! Just ask Jerry G... THE MAN! "
I would like an opportunity to present a recent situation and ask for your feelings about the situation and what do you feel should happen to these employees.
I received this information from friends in PHL and then verified the information myself.
On the 12th of Sept, Flight 2 to FCO developed a mechanical and ended up returning to PHL. When the crew legality was checked it was determined that the crew would not be legal to re-depart PHL and a new crew would have to be called out. According to CATCREW, there were enough reserves on duty to recrew the flight. CATCREW was showing 10 available international reserve flight attendants in PHL.
Crew Scheduling began the process of re-crewing flight 2. Here are the results of the attempts to contact the 10 ON DUTY international reserve flight attendant. 4 accepted the trip and would be at the airport within the 90 minutes allowed, 3 were no contacts, 2 called off sick when assigned the trip, and 1 reported that he/she had been drinking. So out of 10 available reserves they were able to staff 4 out of the 8 minimum required positions. That is a 60% failure rate!
Now it gets better. Since it was a full A330 (260 customers) the decision was made to attempt to fill the other 4 flight attendant positions out of base rather then cancel the flight. This is now after midnight! CLT seemed to be the base with the best reserve coverage so they called 4 international reserve flight attendants out of CLT and chartered an air taxi to bring them to PHL to operate the flight. You got it! Charter an airplane to move the crew to PHL to avoid a cancellation.
30 minutes after the flight attendants were called in CLT and the Chater all set up, guess what? 2 of the CLT flight attendants now called off sick. Now they have to take an additional hour delay while attempting to call out 2 more f/a's!
PitBull - you say that management is on a discipline spree and given the above scenario I say good! Your people are bringing it upon themselves. Yes, it may be a few people that are making it tough on everyone else, but I say the problems is much more wide spread. Again, I have seen these types of abuses from people that I am aquainted with. Their feeling is, "well I havent' had a no contact in a while, so I just won't answer my phone or pager. What is the worst that will happen to me? A slap on the hand?" The same can be said for those that called in sick. Instead of calling scheduling earlier in the day and reporting sick, they wait until they are assigned a trip so that they will get the higher pay claim. And that is if they are even sick to begin with. I would wager that of the 4 sick calls you would be hard pressed to prove that even 1 of them was really sick. I would venture to guess that they didn't want to work a trip that late. As for the person that was drinking.....sorry, but you know you are on duty and anything can happen at anytime. If you are stupid enough to open a drink when you are on call, then you get what is coming to you.
Now I know you are going to come back with some response about how short we are or something like that, but it doesn't wash with me. If we have 10 available reserves and need to fill 8 positions, but can only fill 4, then there is a problem. It is time that the company make examples of this kind of behavior. And what will the unions stance on these employees be? To defend their actions and criticise the company for taking a tough stance against them? There are plenty of people that are out of a job that would love to come back and really work when called upon to do so.
PitBull - you can defend and make excuses for these people until you are blue in the face. Having to charter an airplane from one hub to another to cover a trip that should have been no problem covering is inexcuseable. I hope that each of these employees will have to report to the inflight office on Monday morning and explain their actions. If their work record shows that they are a continued burden on the system, then they should be gone.
I mean no disrespect to the entire f/a group, but I do think it is time to stop accepting excuses for employees that don't want to work. The time has come to cut some of the dead weight and bring back the employees that value and appreicate their jobs.
For those that disagree....by all means fire away......I can hear the guns being loaded already.
"Management is on a "discipline spree". They are disciplining folks across the system up to termination very quickly. Again, the unions will grieve until the unions merge or go bankrupt.
UNION BUSTING AT ITS FINEST...THAT IS WHY IT IS A BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS! Just ask Jerry G... THE MAN! "
I would like an opportunity to present a recent situation and ask for your feelings about the situation and what do you feel should happen to these employees.
I received this information from friends in PHL and then verified the information myself.
On the 12th of Sept, Flight 2 to FCO developed a mechanical and ended up returning to PHL. When the crew legality was checked it was determined that the crew would not be legal to re-depart PHL and a new crew would have to be called out. According to CATCREW, there were enough reserves on duty to recrew the flight. CATCREW was showing 10 available international reserve flight attendants in PHL.
Crew Scheduling began the process of re-crewing flight 2. Here are the results of the attempts to contact the 10 ON DUTY international reserve flight attendant. 4 accepted the trip and would be at the airport within the 90 minutes allowed, 3 were no contacts, 2 called off sick when assigned the trip, and 1 reported that he/she had been drinking. So out of 10 available reserves they were able to staff 4 out of the 8 minimum required positions. That is a 60% failure rate!
Now it gets better. Since it was a full A330 (260 customers) the decision was made to attempt to fill the other 4 flight attendant positions out of base rather then cancel the flight. This is now after midnight! CLT seemed to be the base with the best reserve coverage so they called 4 international reserve flight attendants out of CLT and chartered an air taxi to bring them to PHL to operate the flight. You got it! Charter an airplane to move the crew to PHL to avoid a cancellation.
30 minutes after the flight attendants were called in CLT and the Chater all set up, guess what? 2 of the CLT flight attendants now called off sick. Now they have to take an additional hour delay while attempting to call out 2 more f/a's!
PitBull - you say that management is on a discipline spree and given the above scenario I say good! Your people are bringing it upon themselves. Yes, it may be a few people that are making it tough on everyone else, but I say the problems is much more wide spread. Again, I have seen these types of abuses from people that I am aquainted with. Their feeling is, "well I havent' had a no contact in a while, so I just won't answer my phone or pager. What is the worst that will happen to me? A slap on the hand?" The same can be said for those that called in sick. Instead of calling scheduling earlier in the day and reporting sick, they wait until they are assigned a trip so that they will get the higher pay claim. And that is if they are even sick to begin with. I would wager that of the 4 sick calls you would be hard pressed to prove that even 1 of them was really sick. I would venture to guess that they didn't want to work a trip that late. As for the person that was drinking.....sorry, but you know you are on duty and anything can happen at anytime. If you are stupid enough to open a drink when you are on call, then you get what is coming to you.
Now I know you are going to come back with some response about how short we are or something like that, but it doesn't wash with me. If we have 10 available reserves and need to fill 8 positions, but can only fill 4, then there is a problem. It is time that the company make examples of this kind of behavior. And what will the unions stance on these employees be? To defend their actions and criticise the company for taking a tough stance against them? There are plenty of people that are out of a job that would love to come back and really work when called upon to do so.
PitBull - you can defend and make excuses for these people until you are blue in the face. Having to charter an airplane from one hub to another to cover a trip that should have been no problem covering is inexcuseable. I hope that each of these employees will have to report to the inflight office on Monday morning and explain their actions. If their work record shows that they are a continued burden on the system, then they should be gone.
I mean no disrespect to the entire f/a group, but I do think it is time to stop accepting excuses for employees that don't want to work. The time has come to cut some of the dead weight and bring back the employees that value and appreicate their jobs.
For those that disagree....by all means fire away......I can hear the guns being loaded already.