mrfish3726
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Busdrvr said:A recipe for success, cut back on daily usage of your current Jets, while ordering even more..... :blink:
this is a result of over expanding/ over ordering, and now FRNT will be paying the piper while it struggles to find a market that it can profitably operate therse aircraft in.
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This is correct. IIRC, Frontier's plan is to become an all-Airbus fleet.bcp7 said:Don't you think these aircraft are replacements for the Boeings as part of the previously announced fleet replacement plan, and they (the 737s) will go off the certificate when their leases expire?
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jimntx said:This is correct. IIRC, Frontier's plan is to become an all-Airbus fleet.
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Busdrvr said:While growing at the same time. I'm sure if they had their druthers, the'd not be taking additional AC's at this time while also parking the guppies. Increasing fleet numbers, with more "reliable" jets, while also reducing flying isn't optimum
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C54Capt said:The CFO said the new Airbi are much cheaper to own or lease than the aged B-737. If that is true, I think it is a good plan.
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Busdrvr said:Changing to a newer moree efficient fleet is smart, especially when you change the way you account for MX at the same time... (cash based, pay as you go instead of the more realistic by the hour calculations, ala Blu). The problem is continuing to take delivery of jets beyond the number you need to fly the schedule. And now FRNT will be looking for ways to deploy the Jets so as to limit losses, not make profits. All the while B1tching to the DEN Compost that UAL "has too much capacity" :blink:
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mrfish3726 said:BUS, SOOOOOOOO UniTED continuing to lose 4.5 to 5 MIL a day compared to F-9's 9.5K a day makes UniTED a more solvent carrier?????
As reported many times, any new aricraft arriving at Frontier is for the transition to an ALL AIRBUS fleet. These aren't system expansion aircraft, only replacement equipment for the older Boeings being returned. BUS you have MUCH MORE to WORRY about over there at UniTED than to worry about what NEW equipment F-9 is putting on line! Were are those numbers on TED I keep asking for BUS??? How much of that 155 MIL loss for JAN came from TED??????? SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!
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mrfish3726 said:Bus,
Obviously you don't know every thing about F-9's fleet. Just as UniTED has done F-9 has payed cash in GERMANY for the aircraft then worked out a lease back deal with one of the aircraft leasing/finacing companies. F-9 is not a purely leased fleet the same with UniTED. F-9 has full ownership of 16 Airbus aircraft there Bus. so in your analogy of RASM you can assume the same for fleet leases VS ownership to.
But as UniTED continues to lose 4.5 to 5 MIL a day, things are still going to get VERY interesting! With fuel going over $55 a barrel again, it doesn't look like the Spring Break season is going to bring UniTED any kind of relief!!!
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