Iam Decision 2005

USA320Pilot

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Nobody likes what has happened to the airline industry or US Airways, but when IAM-141 and IAM-142 members vote on the company's porposal, here are a few points to consider:

During last Thursday's hearing, Judge Mitchell said, "Which is worse - that half the mechanics lose their jobs or that all of the mechanics lose their jobs?"

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Peter Cappelli, a management professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and an expert on airline labor relations, said that even though the economic result would be the same, a new deal would preserve other rights, such as seniority rules and grievance procedures. "It is certainly in the interest of the employees to retain whatever they can out of the contract," he said.

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"I wish I could vote 'no,' said Frank Schifano, president of the IAM Lodge 1976 in Pittsburgh and a member of the union's negotiating group. "But the alternatives are so grave. Every member is going to have to evaluate his own position." The airline is offering a severance package and retiree medical coverage for people who retire before March 1. If members vote down the agreement, those incentives will be gone, Schifano said. "Vote 'yes,' lose your job and get severance," he said. "Vote 'no,' lose your job and get nothing."

The good news, Schifano said, is that the union was able to save lots of jobs during negotiations and keep some maintenance work in Charlotte, N.C., and Pittsburgh.

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If the company proposal is not ratified the IAM contracts will immediately be terminated and the airline would be free to impose even deeper cuts.

If the proposal is ratified, for Mechanics & Related workgroup there would be the following benefits:

-- Pay rates for mechanics would be significantly better than the current pay that reflects a 21 percent temporary cut

-- Heavy maintenance on Airbus narrowbody aircraft will be brought in-house and certain Boeing 737 work will continue to be done in-house. Widebody heavy maintenance and other work to be specified, including some Boeing 737 inspection activity, will be done using outside maintenance vendors

-- Base maintenance will continue to be performed in Charlotte, N.C., and Pittsburgh

-- Line maintenance positions will increase with anticipated schedule changes in 2005

-- Utility classification and certain utility positions will be preserved at base maintenance facilities only, with other utility and cleaning services to be outsourced

-- IAM employees displaced by outsourcing will be offered existing and future fleet service positions

For the Fleet Service workgroup:

-- Pay rates for fleet service employees at hubs and major stations would be significantly better than the current pay that reflects a 21 percent temporary pay reduction

-- Most existing fleet service work will be preserved

-- A majority of scope provisions will remain unchanged except the right to outsource fleet work at the smaller cities and a second-tier pay scale for medium-sized cities

-- Continuation in the pre-existing IAM multi-employer national pension plan at unreduced levels

-- Even if an employee is furloughed as a result of the proposals being ratified, they're better off. Furloughed employees would have severance pay, COBRA, J4J (if available), and recall rights.

In conclusion, if the proposals are ratified and implemented the majority of IAM jobs will be preserved. However, if the company fails none of the items listed above would be available for any IAM member.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Now Coach, give him a break. He went a whole 5 or 6 days without telling you folks what was in your best interest - must have been unbearable keeping quiet......

Jim
 
coachrowsey said:
I may go to the cornfield but if so its going to be worth it.
STAY THE F OUT OF THE IAMS BUSINESS.
You are one scared.....................
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He is amazing isn't he Coach? I've moved on and wish you all the best but that man (I use that word lightly in this case) is as scared as the day is long. He is truly amazing. As if he needs to point out the ramifications of a yes or no vote. Scared and condescending. Good luck! But with the lack of leadership at your airline you folks are likely doomed.

mr
 
You are wrong once again, the info you got about the M&R is not correct the paycuts are the same and more in some cases depending on where you work.

Summary of Company’s Final Proposal

• Outsourcing of certain maintenance functions
• Eliminate Utility classification, except in Base Maintenance
• Eliminate Lead Inspector classification
• Lead Ratio increased
• Eliminate 3rd shift paid lunch
• Overtime capped at time and one half
• EZ hour eliminated • Holidays reduced
• Eliminate paid moves effective 1/1/06
• 12 month stability period for all bids • Future Lead Mechanic and Inspection vacancies filled through targeted selection process
• Loss of seniority if you do not return from certain Leaves of Absences, after 3 years excluding furlough
• Vacation reduced to a maximum of 20 days
• Certain premiums reduced or eliminated
• OJI bank eliminated
• 50% pay for the 1st 5 sick days with exceptions
• Wage rates reduced for all classifications
• Defined Benefit Pension Plan terminated by Bankruptcy Court
• Defined contribution plan implemented with a non elective 3% contribution
• Current 401k 2% match, no change
• No change to active Employee Insurance Plan
• Retiree’s medical insurance prior to 3/1/05 subject to 1114 Agreement
• Post 3/1/05 Retiree Medical Insurance subject to attachment A
• Voluntary separation in lieu of furlough see attachment D

Paycut Chart
 
Whats wrong with this picture? You got 320pilot and 700 reading from the same handbook!! well ..well ...well is'nt that special...LOL
 
1,938 mechanic and related layoffs for a 44% reduction in the workforce.
 
USA320Pilot said:
Nobody likes what has happened to the airline industry or US Airways, but when IAM-141 and IAM-142 members vote on the company's porposal, here are a few points to consider:

The good news, Schifano said, is that the union was able to save lots of jobs during negotiations and keep some maintenance work in Charlotte, N.C., and Pittsburgh.

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Well dammit, which is it?

The IAM cannot make a recommendation because this is not an agreement, but then Schifano says the union saved jobs in negotiations.

Sounds like a freakin' agreement to me.
 
700UW said:
You are wrong once again, the info you got about the M&R is not correct the paycuts are the same and more in some cases depending on where you work.


Paycut Chart
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The Paycut Chart is wrong.

Lead Pay is 22.77/hr + 2.00/hr license + 1.00/premium = 25.77/hr.

Ref. section compensation Item 2.
 
diogenes said:
USA320Pilot said:
Nobody likes what has happened to the airline industry or US Airways, but when IAM-141 and IAM-142 members vote on the company's porposal, here are a few points to consider:

The good news, Schifano said, is that the union was able to save lots of jobs during negotiations and keep some maintenance work in Charlotte, N.C., and Pittsburgh.

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Well dammit, which is it?

The IAM cannot make a recommendation because this is not an agreement, but then Schifano says the union saved jobs in negotiations.

Sounds like a freakin' agreement to me.
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Frank's a nice guy to have drink with or have a round of golf with, but as far as a union leader. that guy sucks big time.
 
I am curious about the line that says 1100 line mechanics?

Since when did we have 1100 line mechanics?

Are they going to throw the C check manpower into the line and keep base
as a seperate entity?

Back in August we came up with a Mechanic Headcount right in the area of
2950 which included inspection and leads. (not stock, utility, planner etc)

With the retirements and people leaving for other jobs I can imagine the mechanic
headcount is down to about 2800 roughly. So the cut is approx. 1000 mechanics
according to the company proposal. (mechanics only)
 
Doigenes,
As in the past the IAM will claim this is no agreement, while violating their own bylaws by taking a hands off approach. Just as you have pointed out previously. Then when the IAM has done the companies dirty work, getting this agreements in, turn around and blame the membership .....just like the last time. This is evident in the past!!
 
BoeingBoy said:
Now Coach, give him a break. He went a whole 5 or 6 days without telling you folks what was in your best interest - must have been unbearable keeping quiet......

Jim
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Bet there was a reason like he dropped his laptop
 
Keep in mind that authors Dan FitzPatrick, Mark Belko, Tom Belden, and Jane M. Von Bergen, the news papers Philadelphia Inquirer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, nor "experts" Peter Cappelli, and Kevin P. Mitchell are anyone whom USA320 Pilot would "listen to" or consider "informed."

"When reading a periodical the best sources are key analysts like Merrill’s Michael Linnenberg, S&P’s Phil Baggaley, and Lehman’s Gary Chase. The only news reporters who truly have a handle on the inside information are Susan Carey of the Wall Street Journal, Michelline Maynard of the New York Times, Lynn Marek of Bloomberg News, and Dan Roberts of the Financial Times. I do not listen to anybody else because they are not informed, but the people listed above can directly speak with every industry CEO, if desired."

-USA320Pilot, Jan 7, 2004

Edit: That should be 2005.
 

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