S - T - R - I - K - E ! ! ! This word speaks Volumes !

[Knotbuyinit]

Actually, they don't. They just object to the system Rahm wants to force on them.

Actually they do. And BTW, Obama won't be there to support Chicago teachers just like he wasn't there to support Wisconsin teachers. Have any answers for that?

Obama is pinned between a boulder and a sword

 

[Hello3B]

If all the research shows:
1. The greatest factor in student success is the education of the mother.
2. The second greatest factor in student success is the income level of the family.
3. AND even GREAT teaching cannot overcome the effect of No 1. and No 2. (at least not without strong parental involvement in the school)

So the teachers are just victims of a crap society and can't teach our children. What is the point in having them since they can't overcome #1 and #2. They can't help it, they are just victims. boo hoo. Find another job and quit taking the taxpayers money.

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

Hmmm, maybe you should just confess you don't have the answer why 40 46% of Chicago school teachers send their kids to private school.
...
So, why do 46% of Chicago teachers send their kids to private schools? (Note: you want find the answer on any Teacher’s Union newsletters or websites).

Republican Chris Christie has an answer for you
http://video.msnbc.m...438055#43438055

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

I would be curious to know just how many children you have raised and placed through the public school system. Tech2101 hasn't raised any but feels obligated to tell those of us that have ( 6 kids for me and all with public education and college degrees) how we should grade the successs and failures of public education.

Keep laughing, the jokes on you.

It's really..to use Chris Christie's words..."None of your business"..oh yeah..that was copied and pasted, too! LOL

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

Hmmm, maybe you should just confess you don't have the answer why 40 46% of Chicago school teachers send their kids to private school. Since you're only as smart as your Teacher's union wants you to be, let me offer you a link to support my claim. It's a CNN link so you'll be a little more comfortable confronting the statements of a former U.S. secretary of education.

If you have a problem navigating the internet, just ask your Teacher's Union propaganda copy and paste specialist to help you out.

So, why do 46% of Chicago teachers send their kids to private schools? (Note: you want find the answer on any Teacher’s Union newsletters or websites).

propaganda copy and paste specialist report with answers instead of aspersions...

http://www.washingto...5968r/?page=all
Public school teachers told the Fordham Institute’s surveyors that private and religious schools impose greater discipline, achieve higher academic achievement and offer overall a better atmosphere

“Narrow the search to teachers making less than $42,000 and the percentage enrolling their children in private schools drops to 10 percent.

http://news.heartlan...eir-kids-school
The Fordham study makes clear that--in the absence of publicly funded school choice--the ability to take advantage of such an "opportunity" is a function of income. For example, only 10.3 percent of families with incomes less than $42,000 choose a private school for their children, compared to 35.6 percent of families with incomes exceeding $84,000.

Financial support for the study was provided by the Thomas B. Fordham Institute; the American Education Reform Council, formerly based in Milwaukee and now part of the Arizona-based Alliance for School Choice; and California Parents for Educational Choice.

...and finallly a link to the 2004 (8 year old) study from where all these numbers are coming from...
http://www.edexcelle...eacherkids.html

 

[Ms Tree]

I love it when people make an argument saying that if you have not done 'X' you cannot have an opinion on it. Issa had a Congressional hearing on womens reproduction and the members were all men. Sure, men can have an opinion but when you have 50% of the population available to present an alternative view and you ignore it .. well. That's a slightly different issue.

None of the four running for Pres/VP have had any military service so I guess neither of them can comment on military matters. Very few have been to space so I guess that conversation is out .... People are able to look at evidence, analyze it and actually formulate an opinion.

 

[Kev3188]

Actually they do.

The CTU spokesman disagrees with you.

And BTW, Obama won't be there to support Chicago teachers just like he wasn't there to support Wisconsin teachers. Have any answers for that?

Nope, other than to wonder why anyone is still surprised... I'm not...

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

So the teachers are just victims of a crap society and can't teach our children. What is the point in having them since they can't overcome #1 and #2. They can't help it, they are just victims. boo hoo. Find another job and quit taking the taxpayers money.

Au contraire...We know how to solve this problem...with teachers...And it looks like good old strong teachers union, libturd, Taxachussetts is leading the way! (Ew! Don't they have socialized medicine up there, too?)

Where are all my "right to work" states in this? Oh, yeah! They are still at the bottom of all the student achievement ranking data! I guess they are still ginnin' up to "step in, fire the administration, and replace teachers where necessary..." as one commenter here so noted.

Seems like the kids in those "right to work" states will have to continue to wait for this award wining strategy to be implemented. In the meantime, they'll just have to continue to go to piss poor schools...I guess that's OK 'cause it seems like Walmart is still hirin'.

In the meantime, libturd, socialized medicine, corrupt union having, save sex marriage approving Taxachussetts takes the lead in solving the "public school problem."

Less BS more Progress!

Conservatives step up and show some game (and results!) or step off...

Oh yeah, and the author of the following article is not just some "out of touch" academic. Before moving to NYC he was a Professor of Education at (libturd) UC Berkeley, an elected member of the (Peoples Republic of) Berkeley Board of Education, AND he sent his kids to public schools in Berkeley...

http://www.cnn.com/2...article_sidebar

Get past strike, fix Chicago schools

The Chicago teachers strike has forced into the open a debate about school reform that has simmered for several years.

On one side are "reformers" such as Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who have been pushing for the expansion of charter schools, the use of test scores to evaluate teachers, the replacement of veteran teachers with those who are alternatively certified through programs such as Teach for America and the closure of "failing schools."

The mayor claims these changes will improve public education, although there's been scant evidence to support his proposals.

On the other side is the Chicago Teachers Union, which has been clear about what it opposes: Closing schools, expanding charters, for example, but less clear about what should be done to improve schools. On Friday, both sides reached a tentative deal, but the strike is not over until union reps vote..

Let's be straight: Chicago's public schools desperately need to change.

They have some of the highest dropout rates in the nation, and many schools are chronically unsafe and ineffective. But the district has been undergoing reforms for several years now. Before Emanuel, the chief architect for change was U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, CEO of Chicago Public Schools from 2001 to 2009.

In fact, many of the reforms now embraced by Emanuel -- expanding charter schools, replacing failing schools with new schools -- started under Duncan (and former Mayor Richard M. Daley). The question we should be asking is: Why haven't they worked?

Clearly something is still not right in Chicago given that only 44.6% of Chicago Public School students meet or exceed the Illinois Learning Standards; and in 2011-12 of the 598 schools in the system, 443 did not achieve "adequate yearly progress" for two consecutive years; and 523 schools had an overall rating in 2011 of "no," indicating that they did not make AYP.

In an exhaustive study of many of the reforms carried out during the Duncan years, Tony Bryk and his colleagues at the University of Chicago found that the following elements are essential to sustained school reform: effective leadership, parent-community ties, professional capacity (teacher effectiveness) and a student-centered learning environment.

They also found that in the schools where poverty was most heavily concentrated, the reforms failed to generate sustainable improvements because the schools were overwhelmed by poverty's effect on the lives of children.

It is important to note that the researchers did not conclude that poverty itself was a learning disability. Rather, the study found that if the effects of poverty -- poor nutrition and health, housing instability, violence, neglect, etc. -- were not addressed, student achievement and school performance suffered.

Unlike the mayor, the teachers union has acknowledged this problem and called for more social workers and social services at high poverty schools.

In a city where more than 80% of school age children are poor, this is a good start but it doesn't go far enough. Struggling schools in Chicago also need to be able to attract and retain good teachers, and the union has opposed replacing teachers at the failing schools. Unlike the union, the mayor has emphasized the need for urgency in improving the school system since his election.

The union must acknowledge that the system needs an effective way to evaluate teachers and an expedited process for removing those who are ineffective. If the union rejects using test scores as a basis for evaluation -- and the research shows that using test scores in this way is both prone to inaccuracies and could create disincentives for teachers to work with the neediest children -- then it must put forward another model that is workable.

"No" is not an answer. The problems created by ineffective teachers are real and cannot be ignored.

The real losers in this strike are the children of Chicago, and not just because they have been left out of school for a few days but because they will be forced to return to too many inadequate schools when the strike is resolved.

Emanuel must stop his bullying tactics, and the union must put forward its own proposals for change. Both parties must begin working together to create the schools that the children of Chicago deserve. This must include comprehensive plans for addressing the effects of poverty, but it must also include plans for improving the quality of teaching and the performance of schools.

Chicago would do well to learn from the example of Boston, which also has been under mayoral control for several years and has been a leader in reform despite the presence of a strong union.

Several of its pilot schools, which function as in-district charters, are top performing schools, and it has also succeeded in turning around struggling schools such as Orchard Gardens. The big difference is that reforms in Boston have been carried out with teachers and not on them.
Today, Boston is also one of the top performing urban school districts in the nation, and the union just agreed to a contract that includes rigorous evaluation and uses student test scores in the formula.

It's amazing what can be accomplished when the adults work together in the interest of children.

It would be a good idea if educational leaders in Chicago spent more time working together for change and improvement and less time pointing fingers.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Now the S T R I K E has ended, and the UNION...WON (most of its issues)

Let ALL Unions nationwide LEARN from the CTA !!

For all you ANTI-Union folks who think that Unionism in this country is Dead, well you just got PUNKED !
(Right southwindBAG) ?? : )