This topic title says it all because we all see the same old talking union heads saying how management is out to screw them. As we all know there is a real possibility of this airline is going away. To some on here that doesn’t matter as long as they win, but win what? The employees, all of them no longer have a say in what happens, it’s way beyond that point. The hardliners are also hard headed to their own detriment. I was talking to a fellow mechanic at work yesterday and he told me he would take a $10 to $12 an hour pay cut knowing what his options are on the outside. He has a mortgage and three young children and 16 years seniority that he doesn’t want to lose. It seems that not only does the ALPA leadership have it wrong but so does the mighty IAM who has a poor history of winning this kind of battle looking back to Eastern and Caterpillar just to name two. It’s a damn shame there are union leaders who have more ego than common sense that will probably impact a lot of lives. It’s obvious to all but the so called leaders that cuts are coming fast, hard and many, but to just say no and not even let the membership vote the way ALPA did is no different than some of management’s worse shenanigans ever pulled! Big egos in both management and labor, labor especially will bring this airline to it’s final descend. Like someone wrote on here: What’s done is done, water under the bridge, and the only choice is to move forward because that is the only option no matter who in the hell’s fault it is. I predict there will be a lot of finger pointing when it’s all said and done, my finger won’t be pointing at the unions but my entire body mind and soul will be focused on them. I will avoid unions from this point forward in my remaining working career because I have yet to have success story number one working in any union environment. I have been around for some time to know the realities of union versus nonunion work places, you can have them and there so called leaders who are worse than management can ever be. I can name IAM leaders who are nothing more than yes men and are paid by the union, good pay by the way, because they can’t do anything else except kiss the union bosses hindend and massage their egos. It’s sickening, it really is! At least with non union you are paid according to your skill and not the rear you kiss, skill means nothing in a union only the scared seniority which is now being targeted and I can understand why. I wasn’t born with a union card in my hand and I sure as hell won’t be holding one in my casket. For the record I am a union paying member because it’s mandatory to work at U as a mechanic unless you freely choose to be shunned by not being one of the union drones that gave up their personal sovereignty. Do I hate unions, no I don’t, but they are not what they were and in fact have become corporate America’s favorite target and guess what? Corporate America is winning and I don’t like being on the losing team.