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what is the deal about cashing in sick time if mechs or ut's retire?
who qualifies ?

and if a senior replaces a junior being furloughed does the senior get the same benefits
as if he had normal retirement ? like medical,travel .

please post if you kow.

thank you.
 
You dont get the sick time payment if you retire that is only if you are furloughed due to outsourcing.

If you retire after 3/1/05 you can use your sick time to pay for the little insurance you are allowed.

And if you voluntary seperate to save a junior employee you get the travel, but you are not considered retired therefore you get nothing else.
 
700UW said:
You dont get the sick time payment if you retire that is only if you are furloughed due to outsourcing.

If you retire after 3/1/05 you can use your sick time to pay for the little insurance you are allowed.

And if you voluntary seperate to save a junior employee you get the travel, but you are not considered retired therefore you get nothing else.
[post="242765"][/post]​

you mean unemployement,severance and travel ?

is there an age limit on this?

amt4u
 
The company is taking the position that if you voluntarily seperate, you will NOT get unemployment, the IAM is going to challenge this. If you voluntarily seperate the company is going to give you you're severence and travel for 3 years if you have under 15 years, and if you have over 15 years you will get lifetime travel.

You do not lose your retirement, that is vested and when you are age eligble you can draw on it from the PBGC. You will not accrue anymore retirement as the plan was terminated.
 
The company does NOT decide if you get unemplyoment benefits. That is up to the individuals state law.
Also the sick buy back only covers a portion of the Medical Insurance. NOT all of it.
 
Read the term sheet if you are maxed out on sick time, it will provide over two years of insurance premium.

And US Airways is going to challenge the unemployment since you are voluntarily seperating from the company. Most states do not provide unemployment when you leave the company voluntarily.
 
Wrong again.......The voluntary furlough program has been in place for over 3 years now and nobody has been turned down.

The sick buyback covers a minimum of insurance which most would not even consider. To recieve average coverage there is an additional cost.
 
totobird said:
Wrong again.......The voluntary furlough program has been in place for over 3 years now and nobody has been turned down.

The sick buyback covers a minimum of insurance which most would not even consider. To recieve average coverage there is an additional cost.
[post="243002"][/post]​
you are right to a point...however this is called a voluntary separation and i believe this wording means a world of difference legally.
and by separating it relieves the company from unemployment payout responsibility's
separation not furlough....
 
totobird said:
The company does NOT decide if you get unemplyoment benefits. That is up to the individuals state law.
Also the sick buy back only covers a portion of the Medical Insurance. NOT all of it.
[post="242832"][/post]​

In some states I know Companies can contest paying of unemployment benefits
In the majority of States, benefit funding is based solely on a tax imposed on employers.

useful info by state

Scroll down for other states

Dept of Labor

State comparison tables
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
In some states I know Companies can contest paying of unemployment benefits
In the majority of States, benefit funding is based solely on a tax imposed on employers.

[post="243071"][/post]​

Slight correction...

In ALL states, a company can contest an application for UI (unemployment insurance) benefits. However, in the case of mass layoffs/ voluntary separations/etc, they usually don't because each individual's application must be contested separately. Ain't no such thing as a "blanket" protest of UI apps. The company usually has to involve its lawyers in the dispute. Lawyers cost more than the UI benefit. The company may tell you in advance that they will dispute the claim if you file, but most don't. As a general rule, companies dispute only those apps where they had "good cause" for separating the employee --such as, theft of company property, abuse of sick leave (which they can prove), etc.--to avoid "precedent setting."

The payroll tax on employers is a variable percentage of total payroll within the particular state. IIRC, in Texas for instance, the percentage can be as low as one half of one percent to as high as 5% of total in-state payroll. The percentage is usually set once a fiscal year (the state's fiscal year, not the company's) based upon the company's "experience" over the last 12 months. More claims = higher experience = higher percentage tax.

Sounds like UAIR is going to have high experience after this round of concessions regardless; so, it would not be cost effective to dispute enough of the claims to make it "pay" for them.

And, remember that even if the company disputes your claim and the initial ruling is to deny your claim, you can file an appeal to that ruling, and to the next ruling, and to the next. All the way up to the State Commissioners. If they rule against you, you can then file suit in court. Do you see why most companies don't bother to dispute claims?
 
The company has made it quite clear to the IAM that it WILL contest anyone that voluntarily seperates from US Airways.
 
jimntx said:
Slight correction...

In ALL states, a company can contest an application for UI (unemployment insurance) benefits. However, in the case of mass layoffs/ voluntary separations/etc, they usually don't because each individual's application must be contested separately. Ain't no such thing as a "blanket" protest of UI apps. The company usually has to involve its lawyers in the dispute. Lawyers cost more than the UI benefit



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Thanks for correction I wasn't sure if it was all states so I stated what I knew. Company has shown it has no sense when it comes to saving money so I would expect them to contest.

jimntx said:
Do you see why most companies don't bother to dispute claims?


[post="243094"][/post]​

Or if employees is denied it doesn't go through process? Maybe needs to find income to survive? Not sure if you collect while contesting
 
700UW said:
The company has made it quite clear to the IAM that it WILL contest anyone that voluntarily seperates from US Airways.
[post="243097"][/post]​

So, let them contest it and pay the legal fees if they want to fight it. The burden is on them. What do you have to lose by putting in for it?
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
Thanks for correction I wasn't sure if it was all states so I stated what I knew. Company has shown it has no sense when it comes to saving money so I would except them to contest.
Or if employees is denied it doesn't go through process? Maybe needs to find income to survive? Not sure if you collect while contesting
[post="243102"][/post]​
don't believe you'd collect when appealing.....first you're appealing a denial of benefits and secondly you'd have to repay and most in that situ may have trouble repaying...
 
delldude said:
don't believe you'd collect when appealing.....first you're appealing a denial of benefits and secondly you'd have to repay and most in that situ may have trouble repaying...
[post="243110"][/post]​

To Dude and UVN...
No, you do not collect while appealing. However, if you ultimately win it doesn't matter if in the meantime you've gone to work somewhere else. You get the back benefits from the original date of your claim until the day you went to work, plus interest.

And, it doesn't cost you anything to appeal. When you receive the notice of denial of your claim, there is an appeal form included. All you have to do is fill it out, sign it, and mail it. Total cost: $.37 for the stamp and a little time. You would have to show for the appeal hearing, but as USA320 and UYH, et al, have been saying (and you know that they are never wrong)...the most you are going to get outside U is a paper hat job. I'm sure McDonald's will let you have the day off to attend. :lol: 🙄 :lol: (You do know, I'm joking, don't you?)
 

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