TheWatcher
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I think those pilots will probably have an extended vacation 🙁🙁🙁
I figured you must be a expert after saying:
" A duuhhhh no s t sherlock, taxiways aren't where you should land, thats why they made runways. And as for a dumb ass, yep a dumb ass indeed. There is just very few reasons, if any, for them to put the bird down on the taxiway. "
Please tell me what the very few reasons are for them (the dumb ass pilots) to put the bird down on the taxiway?
Mr GroundedBoricua :down:Well smart ass, a mecanical or engine failure could be one reason, s :censored: t if something went wrong on the plane and I beleived for a fact that I would not be able to make the go around, or would of crashed trying to, I would of put her down on the taxiway too! Remember there was high crosswinds that day. Thats why I'm asking if anyone knew what happened. I may noy be an expert but I'm not a smart ass like you. :angry:
There's no instrument approach to runway 29 - strictly visual.I am sure a pilot could answer this better, but a taxiway that is parallel(sp?)to a runway in most cases would be at least 300' off the centerline of the runway, would the flight crew still pick up the localizer and glideslope? And if they could pick them up, would'nt it show them left or right of the centerline?
Mr BoeingBoyThere's no instrument approach to runway 29 - strictly visual.
Jim
There is an RNAV 29 in CO's database which could be loaded from the FMC. The PAPI on 29 is on the right side of the runway, whereas most all other airports are on the left. I had heard that the pilots had lost sight of the runway for a second as they maneuvered toward it (sun). This may explain the disorientation. The FO was realatively new (less than a year), and flying the airplane. With a new FO and a short runway, they should have refused 29 IMO. These guys will be back after some sim training. Perhaps some on how to hook up the autopilot with the RNAV app.There's no instrument approach to runway 29 - strictly visual.
Jim
I was mainly responding to the question about why they didn't realize they were off from the localizer indications, but is that the standard visual "RNAV" approach in the database? The FAA doesn't show a RNAV approach to 29.There is an RNAV 29 in CO's database which could be loaded from the FMC.
There is an RNAV 29 in CO's database which could be loaded from the FMC. The PAPI on 29 is on the right side of the runway, whereas most all other airports are on the left. I had heard that the pilots had lost sight of the runway for a second as they maneuvered toward it (sun). This may explain the disorientation. The FO was realatively new (less than a year), and flying the airplane. With a new FO and a short runway, they should have refused 29 IMO. These guys will be back after some sim training. Perhaps some on how to hook up the autopilot with the RNAV app.![]()
Jim said nothing wrong in my opinion. As a matter of fact I believe he contributes some informative comments. After all he is a pilot.Hey mistified, what did jim say wrong??? or perhaps you are a non-pilot expert?
should read:Did you not refer to the pilots in question a dumb asses?
What do you mean?Certainly no offense taken, mistified. I should have been more clear about what my "no instrument approach" comment was meant to address.
Jim
would the flight crew still pick up the localizer and glideslope? And if they could pick them up, would'nt it show them left or right of the centerline?
There's no instrument approach to runway 29 - strictly visual.
Now I see the confusion.I meant that I should have originally posted this so it would have been clear what my "no instrument approach" comment was addressing.
And that I didn't consider your remark about having a RNAV approach in the FMS database a correction, just an additional tidbit of data added to the discussion.
Jim