flyonthewall
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If one group believes that by voting no they will get a free ride, they may have to rethink that concept. Think about this: Assume we get 3 out of 4 ratifying. The remaining group will face the bankruptcy court and the judge would definitely rule in favor of the company. The judge is not about to allow one group to get a free ride when everyone else is sacrificing so much. Even though there is this so called 1113 protection, if the choice is between liquidation or having the judge save the airline, what do you think is going to happen?
1. The airline industry is in an unprecedented depression.
2. Unfortunately, the tragic plane crash will have some adverse impact on bookings. Doesn't anyone remember what happened to us back in the mid-90s when we had the series of incidents?
3. The best options are unemployment insurance, Home Depot, Walmart or some other similar position. None of them pay fleet or CWA wages or benefits, even after the cuts. Even the jobs that pay $13 bucks hour outside the industry, doesn't offer the flight and vacation benefits. Remember, that each employee group will participate in the profit sharing plan. This is a WIN-WIN situation for every employee.
4. Do you want to be unemployed when we go to war with Iraq, which certainly appears inevitable? A 5% reduction in salary is much better than being without a job. A war will Iraq could have an adverse reaction towards many industries and occupations.
The grass is never greener on the other side. People need to get smart very quickly, before it's too late. It's okay to be angry as long as you ultimately think rationally!
This is not a threat, but just stating the hard facts that face each employee. For the employees who want to gamble with Judge Mitchell, go ahead, but I PROMISE that your group will lose and the cuts COULD be deeper. Hopefully the rational minds will prevail on Friday.
1. The airline industry is in an unprecedented depression.
2. Unfortunately, the tragic plane crash will have some adverse impact on bookings. Doesn't anyone remember what happened to us back in the mid-90s when we had the series of incidents?
3. The best options are unemployment insurance, Home Depot, Walmart or some other similar position. None of them pay fleet or CWA wages or benefits, even after the cuts. Even the jobs that pay $13 bucks hour outside the industry, doesn't offer the flight and vacation benefits. Remember, that each employee group will participate in the profit sharing plan. This is a WIN-WIN situation for every employee.
4. Do you want to be unemployed when we go to war with Iraq, which certainly appears inevitable? A 5% reduction in salary is much better than being without a job. A war will Iraq could have an adverse reaction towards many industries and occupations.
The grass is never greener on the other side. People need to get smart very quickly, before it's too late. It's okay to be angry as long as you ultimately think rationally!
This is not a threat, but just stating the hard facts that face each employee. For the employees who want to gamble with Judge Mitchell, go ahead, but I PROMISE that your group will lose and the cuts COULD be deeper. Hopefully the rational minds will prevail on Friday.
52 PM Tim Nelson wrote: [BR][BR]I agree with you that management wants every t/a ratified and that liquidation is not in the forefront.[BR]If by some way US AIRWAYS can get the judge to establish a first in chapter 11 by throwing out a contract then it will be a terrible blow to investors. Investors want signed contracts, not work forces that are free to resort to legal "self helps" at any time. [BR]Volitility is not in the best interest of the company. A more reasonable and almost always historical conclusion would put the company and the IAM at the negotiating table to hammer out the issues.[BR]Employees like me, management, and the union all want a fair deal.[BR][BR]regards,[BR][BR]Tim Nelson[BR]IAM Local Chairman 1487[BR]215-440-6392----------------[/BLOCKQUOTE][BR][BR]Any group that participates in "self-help" in this environment would be committing suicide. As many unemployed and underemployed people that could be used to "contract out" the work that are available right now U would have no trouble replacing anybody. Remember, it IS LEGAL for the company to hire replacement workers. If your jobs go away (and many would) then recalls would be SLOW, maybe nonexistent. Anybody thinking that an 1113 letter will protect their positions in front of the judge is WAY misinformed. A lot of firsts have occurred in the past year and a half, and I would bet money that the precedent of overturning an 1113 letter will be one real soon if these are voted down. You're right, I'll bet with all the good effort that management will go to the judge before liquidation, but I'll bet you take way bigger hits from the judge when your entire contract is thrown out. Then, no seniority, no benefits, no severance, NADA! Not saying it WILL happen, just saying it's a strong possibility! Also, then maybe everybody makes express pay, not just the folks at express stations!
