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A Suggested Route for US Airways

Post: “The government goofed when it blocked the deal between United and US Airwaysâ€￾


WASHINGTON (Post) - US Airways is an important part of the Washington economy, but its future -- like that of all the other old-line carriers -- is very much up in the air. In today's competitive environment, none of them can survive with their current cost structures and strategies. And getting those right is going to require everyone -- employees, managers and government regulators -- to think outside the box.

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Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
 
Washington Post columnist Steven Pearlstein suggested in the article above that US Airways should revive the United merger. "The government goofed when it blocked the deal between United and US Airways. But happily there is a small window of opportunity to try it again. United is in the midst of a bankruptcy process while also negotiating for a big federal loan guarantee, which together offer the flexibility and cash to structure a new deal and help rationalize an industry that desperately needs it," Pearlstein said.

USA320Pilot comments: In my opinion, Pearlstein knows the end-game of the business partner restructurings and how the money people and ATSB will see the two compaines restructured.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
on the maps and on paper a UA/US merger looks great! I'm glad I'm not the only one out there with this sentiment!

(God help us when it comes to integrating seniorities though! The other discussions in this forum will attest to this!) :shock:

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transcript Lou Dobbs moneyline,aired June 15,2001.

DOBBS: Well, coming up here next, tonight's "CEOs on the Edge": a troubled merger at US Airways putting that executive team under lots of pressure. And tonight, powering America, upgrading the system, the latest battle between the White House and the Statehouse in California. Also, Sony owns up to shady advertising for last summer's "The Patriot." We'll tell you all about it, when MONEYLINE continues. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

DOBBS: Now "CEOs on the Edge." Tonight, an executive team on the edge, a chairman and CEO. It's a bonus package tonight. They've backed themselves into a corner. The company is US Airways, which struck a merger agreement last year with United. But that deal is languishing and US Airways doesn't have a backup.

Peter Viles is here and has the story for us -- Pete.

PETER VILES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Lou, the United offer is $60 a share in cash. US Airways shares closed tonight below $25 a share, which tells you Wall Street believes this deal is all but dead.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

VILES (voice-over): For the past 15 years, Stephen Wolf has had a safe strategy in the brutal airline wars: take a battered airline, whip it into shape, and then sell it. He sold Republic to Northwest, Flying Tigers to FedEx, United to its employees. And then the fourth deal, last May, US Airways to UAL.

STEPHEN WOLF, CHAIRMAN, US AIRWAYS: Today, we have the opportunity to fulfill our goal of becoming a world global-class ass carrier in one single stroke.

VILES: But Wall Street has never believed it will happen. US Airways has never traded close to the $60 a share UAL is offering. The street is betting Washington believes United is powerful enough without a foothold in the Northeast.

GLENN ENGEL, GOLDMAN SACHS: The deal has been out there for more than a year, and yet Justice has never said anything specifically about anything. So we know they're not happy, but we don't know exactly what it will take to make them happy to get this deal done. And that makes it seem as if the odds of this deal happening are diminishing.

VILES: Wolf has argued USAir cannot survive in its current form. In a statement to MONEYLINE, the airline said, quote: "There are only two platforms for an airline in the U.S. today: that of a large- network carrier and that of a nimble low-cost carrier. US Airways as a mid-size carrier is neither."

CEO Rakesh Gangwall, a 20-year airline veteran, is running an airline that's in a strategic holding pattern. He has said there is no plan b if the merger falls through.

RAY NEIDL, ABN AMRO: I think US Airways might have two choices if the UAL deal doesn't go through. One is new management comes in, tries to restructure the airline, reduce costs to make them competitive with the new competition, or secondly, the current management tries to stay in there and tries to work out another deal, possibly breaking up the airlines and selling it in pieces to different airlines. VILES: Meantime, US Airways is getting squeezed from all sides. It has relatively high labor costs, has not hedged aggressively against rising fuel costs, is suffering from the slowdown in business travel, and losing share to low-cost competitors like Jet Blue.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

VILES: Now, analysts, for the most part, do not fault Wolf for trying to sell the airline. If there is second-guessing, it's that he didn't try to sell it sooner, before the economy hit a brick wall, before fuel prices started rising and before Washington turned bearish on these airline mergers -- Lou.

DOBBS: More than just a few problems there.

VILES: More than a few.

DOBBS: Any prospects for resolution here?

VILES: Well, the deal either has to be done or come undone, and then they can try to find another deal.

DOBBS: They've held it out there for a year. What's another year?

VILES: It's got to fall apart or happen. And they've got to try to find another deal. Wall Street is betting they'd probably sell it in pieces.

DOBBS: OK, Pete, thanks -- Peter Viles.
 
Yes ladies and gentlemen, this is one time where the Internet really fails to capture the true excitement of an airline pilot fantasizing about a merger between US Airways and United Airlines for the zillionenth time.

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Who is fantasying? I do not want to merge with United and I would prefer for US Airways to remain independent. But, that's putting the horse before the cart because United does not yet qualify for the loan guarantee and it has conditional exit financing or should I say a portion of the exit financing.

The issue is simple.

My comments are what has and is being discussed between the business partners. No more, no less. In fact, there is even more reason to believe that US Airways and RSA could be United's saving grace by providing a Dulles solution (with GECAS) and an equity investor (RSA) so the company can emerge.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
 
Here's my prediction (FWIW):
1- Mesa will buy PSA and take over the regional flying for UAL and USA.
Gives the maximum flexibility to Mesa to route RJs for both airlines in the hubs
as well as frees up both other carriers to use there capital for other "things".
2- Either MDA (if it gets off the ground) of Mesa (if not) will fly the shuttle utilizing
E170's flying for USA and UAL under a re-branded name (STAR Shuttle?).
3- UAL and USA may or may not be merged, but will fly as one carrier under
the STAR umbrella.
4- USA will take over the Carribean/LA/SA flying for STAR.

This is my prediction. We all know how those go, flame on!
 
USA320Pilot said:
USA320Pilot comments: In my opinion, [Washington Post columnist Steven] Pearlstein knows the end-game of the business partner restructurings and how the money people and ATSB will see the two compaines restructured.
USA320Pilot:

If you liked his proposal to revive the United/US Airways merger, you'll love his other ideas:

- "... more flexible work rules that lead to a smaller, more productive workforce."

- "... some cuts will also be required in basic wages ..."

- "... the hubs that survive will have to locate in larger metro areas that also serve as international gateways. For US Airways, that means closing the Pittsburgh hub and giving a hard look at Charlotte."

So if, as you believe, "Pearlstein knows the end-game of the business partner restructurings and how the money people and ATSB will see the two compaines [sic] restructured", then be prepared for these other actions to occur as well. As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
 
Fascinating. That article (come to Jesus?? didn't US already do that!) while amusing, contains one line at end about the BONEHEADED US-UA merger.

But to read the original post here you'd think the GOOFBALL merger was the main topic of the article.

Question: identify one event during the past year which gives hope for the future of USAir?

Didn't think so.
 
😱 a world global class ass carrier? :lol: :shock: Is that a typo? I dont remember him saying that! but thats what we are now...


=US AIRWAYS
We carry your ass to Charlotte.
 
It's not necessarily one event...but it's the continual negativity and perception by the majority of posters believing that USAirways' days are numbered.

(The majority is always correct, aren't they...yea right!)

I liken it to the mass psychology demonstrated in the stock markets...the smart money buys low and sells high while the masses (lemmings) are selling low and buying high. The masses are ALWAYS wrong.

I believe it's the same mentality here.

If I was betting man...I would bet against the majority and bet on USAirways succeeding, with or without UAL.

In due time we will find out. The best to everyone.

IMHO :up:
 
I thought (according to this board at least) that there were not wage differences between US and WN employees. Yet this article implies that US employees need 25% pay cuts to reach LCC wages in order to compete... which is it?
 
whlinder,

Remember a couple of old sayings. Liars figure and figures lie is one. There are liars, d&%# liars, and statisticians is the other. Just like in Washington where one side will say that the other side is cutting spending on some program and the other side says that they are only slowing the growth in spending.

In other words, both can be right. It depends on which statistic is used to prove what point.

Jim
 
WN's rampers top out at $24.00/hr. at the end of their contract. As far as I know, that's now the highest paid among the majors.
 
>>>>WN's rampers top out at $24.00/hr. at the end of their contract. As far as I know, that's now the highest paid among the majors. <<<


As I'm sure you know, WN's airplanes are constantly flowing in and out of the gates instead of banks of flights. The rampers are fairly constantly busy instead of a flurry of work and then 2 hours of sit time between "banks". The cost efficiency and productivity and use of fixed and labor assets of SWA"s operations is phenomenal and compared to anyone else is huge.

The hub and spoke has more revenue efficiencies but SWA's point to point flying allowing a constant steady flow of traffic in and out of their gates is key to their efficiencies. Plus....they don't create their own delays by trying to get 100 flights out in 25 minutes.
 
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