AA Restructuring Plan Released

[USA320Pilot]

AMR's Restructuring Plan

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AMR Pilot Restructuring Proposal/Term Sheet

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AMP Pilot Proposed Pay Rates

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What's interesing in AMR's proposal to relax scope and create pay rates to fly RJs on the mainline. In addition to the layoffs, mainline positions are proposed to be transitioned to Express type positions.

 

[flybynite]

Laying off 2300 f/a's and 400 pilots.

So sad.

 

[BoeingBoy]

What's interesing in AMR's proposal to relax scope and create pay rates to fly RJs on the mainline.

That's a little misleading. With scope amended to allow up to 88 seats at affiliates and the banded mainline pay scales including the A319 (120-some seats), that leaves a narrow window for another mainline Gp 1 aircraft. The bigger E-jets and smaller C-series (plus Chinese/Russian counterparts) would fit in there but calling them an RJ is a misnomer.

Jim

 

[john john]

Are the rj’s charts right for US




“The company’s proposal to eliminate the owned/non-owned commuter carrier distinction along with changing the definition of a Commuter Air Carrier”
One big happy family

 

[BoeingBoy]

I have no idea what you're asking. The AA pilot pay proposal doesn't include RJ's. There is a Gp 1 pay scale for undefined aircraft between 88 and 120ish seats that is roughly equal to the US E-190 rates (note that's not the ERJ-190 - Embraer didn't want the E-jets to be called "RJ's").

Jim

 

[john john]

I have no idea what you're asking. The AA pilot pay proposal doesn't include RJ's. There is a Gp 1 pay scale for undefined aircraft between 88 and 120ish seats that is roughly equal to the US E-190 rates (note that's not the ERJ-190 - Embraer didn't want the E-jets to be called "RJ's").

Jim

http://www.restructuringamr.com/our-people-apa-kt2.asp

 

[BoeingBoy]

Oh, you weren't asking about RJ pay but the size of the potential US affiliated RJ fleet. Yep, without checking several concessionary LOA's it looks about right. Between Steven, Dave, and Lakefield the RJ fleet can be as big as the mainline fleet ever was and larger than the mainline fleet today.

Jim

 

[USA320Pilot]

AMR's Proposal to APA's Pilots Tidbits

6 year contract

No line guarantee

No night pay

No international override

Combine domestic and international

No paid mil leave

87 hours a month

FAR duty rules

No min day or 5 hour average

PBS

36 hours sick a year paid at full and 60% paid for rest. They took 40% of the bank with this rule.

A doctor's note for sick for more than 2 times per year

Hotels at the airport

Long term disability offset

Commuter flying capped at 88 seats

Unlimited code share

Distance learning - 1/3 pay

Double medical costs

No retire medical

No A or B fund - 13.5% to 401k

 

[FWAAA]

AMR's Proposal to APA's Pilots Tidbits

And yet payrates that remain far above those at US (even West). With AA not trying to lower pilot pay to US levels, how will Parker be able to pay US pilots the AA pilot rates? From where will that money come? Doesn't look like AA is trying very hard to align its payscales to US payscales.

 

[StewGuy86]

And AA's restructuring plan belongs on the US boards....how? I couldn't possibly GAF less.

 

[Kev3188]

All of us should know what's going on in the industry; not just at our own respective carriers, but the competition as well. You should "GAF" because what happens there may, at some point, affect you.

 

[PullUp]

And AA's restructuring plan belongs on the US boards....how? I couldn't possibly GAF less.

Watch carefully, because it will be the US pilots' next contract.
Cheers.

 

[AAviator]

<chuckle>

 

[damajagua]

AA Pay scale will stay higher for pilots and flight attendants even when you add the recent f/a TA.