Age 60 Rule

[BlackOps]

As a 47 year old, I'm opposed to a change in the age 60 rule. I remember a friend of mine from UAL referring to 60 year old pilots who went on to the panel as: "Herpes" (you can't get rid of them).

For once those of us nearer to the bottom outnumber those at the top. Age 60 is time for pilots to move on and let the rest of us upgrade. A lot of people made a lot of money for a lot of years (and rightly so). It is time to let the rest of us cash in on what is left.

 

[BoeingBoy]

One thing about this issue (like religion and politics) - it tends to be seen as black and white. Pilots are either for keeping the age 60 rule or they're for changing it.

There is a small subset of pilots who favor keeping it until they approach 60, then they favor changing it.

Jim

 

[javaboy]

side 1.... they took my pensions i gotta work past 60 just to make up 3.5 decades of service <_<


side 2... well thank you now i gotta work to 65 to make what i was supposed to get at 60, still another pay cut curtousey of those senior. how do you think YOU got to be senior. :blink:


side 3..... all of yooousse guys outta my seat i'm coming back for another 3 years since i have been IN retirement I don't have to tell you that losing my pension and medical benefits its time i come back and GOT mine AGAIN..... 😛h34r:


side 4.... good luck to those in the future, jump ships for $$ and benefits take the options and RUN, do not figure on 30 years of promises. take the bucks and move on loyalty is a fools game in this industy

 

[UseYourHead]

Good point Jim,

Most folks want what is best for them, and that changes as life goes on.

I hope for all of our sakes that we do not have to work past 60 to make ends meet.

I am not a big fan of changing this rule as I believe the system will morph requiring all to work to whatever the new age will be.

That would be just one more nightmare in a long list of recurring bad dreams!

🙂

One thing about this issue (like religion and politics) - it tends to be seen as black and white. Pilots are either for keeping the age 60 rule or they're for changing it.

There is a small subset of pilots who favor keeping it until they approach 60, then they favor changing it.

Jim

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[Dea Certe]

Wasn't the age 60 rule set back in 1957? Times have changed and today's 50 is the new 40, or so I like to believe. Better medicine, diets and exercise are letting us all live longer and be healthier.

Todays economy and the trend toward dumping pensions will have us all working well into our "golden" years. Or as Erma Bombeck used to call it, The Metallic Years. Silver in the hair, gold in the teeth and lead in the butt!

I've noticed a lot more older people working at jobs once considered after school jobs. Check out the guys driving the hotel vans. Used to be younger, college kids working their way through school. Now, if you ask these older guys, they are supplementing their retirement incomes. Very sad.

I suspect we will see even more of this as time goes by and if Bush is successful in gutting Social Security and Medicare.

Considering that pilots get frequent medicals, I see no reason they shouldn't be allowed to fly until 65 as long as they are able. It's a shame so many of U's pilots won't see the left seat during what's left of their careers. And a bigger shame that can't be corrected by growth of the airline.

Dea

 

[pitguy]

Dea I agree. I think if the laws are not changed then the U should look at having the pilots work from age 60 through 65 doing other jobs at the company such as keeping the ramp clean, maybe clean planes, service lavs, and other odd jobs. U could make it a provision for them to get a higher amount of their retirement or medical. This could save U much needed cash. We all know that U is having trouble filling some of it's positions.

--Of course they could not make their flying wages though.

 

[RedOne]

... U should look at having the pilots work from age 60 through 65 doing other jobs at the company such as keeping the ramp clean, maybe clean planes, service lavs, and other odd jobs.

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Pitguy, as a co-worker used to say when someone said something that everyone KNEW would never happen..."YOUSE ARE A FUNNY GUY!"
A pilot doing any of those things? LMAO. He!!, I'd pay to go to the airport to see that! 😀

 

[HeavyIronPilot]

Wasn't the age 60 rule set back in 1957? Times have changed and today's 50 is the new 40, or so I like to believe. Better medicine, diets and exercise are letting us all live longer and be healthier.

Todays economy and the trend toward dumping pensions will have us all working well into our "golden" years. Or as Erma Bombeck used to call it, The Metallic Years. Silver in the hair, gold in the teeth and lead in the butt!

I've noticed a lot more older people working at jobs once considered after school jobs. Check out the guys driving the hotel vans. Used to be younger, college kids working their way through school. Now, if you ask these older guys, they are supplementing their retirement incomes. Very sad.

I suspect we will see even more of this as time goes by and if Bush is successful in gutting Social Security and Medicare.

Considering that pilots get frequent medicals, I see no reason they shouldn't be allowed to fly until 65 as long as they are able. It's a shame so many of U's pilots won't see the left seat during what's left of their careers. And a bigger shame that can't be corrected by growth of the airline.

Dea

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[whaledriver]

I am speaking from experience...I've flown with several 59 year old major airline pilots that have had problems trying to focus and stay awake during international flights. The mental fatigue is only amplified during 'red eyes' and pacific/atlantic crossings. The effect of multiple time zones with a short lay-over and return is extremely difficult on anyones body...especially anyone close to age 60. The age 60 increase is only being explored for one reason = GREED. All pilots have had full knowledge that one day the ride would end. Well, it's time to accept that date and allow the next pilot to assume his or her seat. In the interest of SAFETY, we should NOT allow anyone to test the waters beyond age 60...No reason for it at all. The industry has absolutely no shortage at all of highly qualified airline pilots. :down: