Alpa Schreds 269 Boxes Of Documents.

[STapaL]

:angry:

ALPA SHREDS 269 BOXES OF DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE TWA/AMERICAN AIRLINES TRANSACTION

Yesterday ALPA announced to a Federal Magistrate in New Jersey that they had shredded 269 boxes of documents related to the merger of TWA-LLC with American Airlines.

Its clear that ALPA attorneys made a calculated decision to shred evidence.

The 269 boxes of documents must indicate something very sinister LIKELY involving APA.

This would be more than just an embarrassment, it would result in serious problems for AMR, ALPA and APA.

I wonder if other ALPA unions are aware of this.

The fallout to this will be huge.

 

[Skyyggoddess]

Would you keep us updated on this? My imagination is going crazy at the moment wondering WHY these documents were shredded. It will be very difficult to recreate that many documents. I guess the big question is:
Who would benefit from these documents being destroyed and how do they benefit?

 

[vanish747]

Would you keep us updated on this? My imagination is going crazy at the moment wondering WHY these documents were shredded. It will be very difficult to recreate that many documents. I guess the big question is:
Who would benefit from these documents being destroyed and how do they benefit?

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any chance that this was just routine house cleaning. I mean how long does ALPA have to hang on to documents if not under a court order to do so?

 

[STapaL]

any chance that this was just routine house cleaning. I mean how long does ALPA have to hang on to documents if not under a court order to do so?

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ALPA cannot shred 269 boxes of documents related to the seniority integration while a FEDERAL LEGAL ACTION IS PENDING!!!

 

[L1011Ret]

We await more details. But it is clearly against the law to destroy documents once you are named in a lawsuit if that is what happened. The best part will be the lame explanations, like my dog ate my homework. Who would benefit? The only possible beneficiary I can think of would be ALPA for if those documents contained information about ALPA's attempts to get APA into the ALPA fold at the same time they were representing the TWA pilots in the seniority integration, then they had a huge conflict resulting in a DFR. The TWA pilots tried hard to get ALPA to go to bat for them but ALPA refused as I understand it. Thus if it could be shown that ALPA did not want to take steps to vigorously represent the TWA pilots because it jeopardized their organizing efforts to take APA into the fold, and mind you ALPA was spending money at the time to do so, ALPA would lose big time. So that "lost" evidence might have, I say might have, cooked ALPA's goose. By the way, the 3 man appelate court that heard the TWA pilots suit against APA and AA threw out the charges against AA and APA saying the TWA pilots should have pursued a case against ALPA.

 

[Hope777]

Well look at the brite side, at least ALPO didnt shred their young !

 

[L1011Ret]

No, they ate them long ago...

 

[Boomer]

If ALPA actually destroyed documents, punishment is less than a sure thing.

US Supreme Court: Arthur Anderson v. US, verdict reversed and remanded.

 

[TWAnr]

If ALPA actually destroyed documents, punishment is less than a sure thing.

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The Supreme Court simply held in the Anderson case that in order to be convicted of the crime of destroying evidence it must be proven that the defendant acted with knowledge and the intent of doing so, as opposed to merely following a routine procedure of purging old records without ill intent.

In the Anderson case there was no ongoing active court case at the time that the potential evidence was destroyed.

Here, even if there were insufficient grounds to initiate a criminal prosecution for destruction of evidence, the trial court in the civil action can impose sanctions that will severely affect ALPA defense in the trial. For example, the court may instruct the jury that such destruction of evidence may be tantamount to consciousness of wrongdoing by the defendant and the court may further instruct the jury to make adverse findings of fact against ALPA on the contested issues on which these documents could have shed light. Finally, monetary sanctions are quite common in such situations.

 

[FA Mikey]

Could it also be that while destroying the paper documents, there are digital copies being kept on file?

 

[Boomer]

The Supreme Court simply held in the Anderson case that in order to be convicted of the crime of destroying evidence it must be proven that the defendant acted with knowledge and the intent of doing so, as opposed to merely following a routine procedure of purging old records without ill intent.

In the Anderson case there was no ongoing active court case at the time that the potential evidence was destroyed.

Here, even if there were insufficient grounds to initiate a criminal prosecution for destruction of evidence, the trial court in the civil action can impose sanctions that will severely affect ALPA defense in the trial. For example, the court may instruct the jury that such destruction of evidence may be tantamount to consciousness of wrongdoing by the defendant and the court may further instruct the jury to make adverse findings of fact against ALPA on the contested issues on which these documents could have shed light. Finally, monetary sanctions are quite common in such situations.

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I'm not an attorney, I'm a wrench.

Having said that, I reread the opinion from the USSC and can still see how a good attorney would use that material to craft a pattern by which prosecution would be difficult.

We do not know what documents were requested pursuant to litigation; we don't know the scope of the net cast for exploraton of the issues covered.

I know what it is like to be boned by the Union that purports to represent you; I also know the extent to which the Courts are loath to intrude on the internal mechanisms of Union affairs.

If the former ALPA members from TWA can strike a blow for transparency and the rule of law within the affairs of Unionism; have at it and the wind be at your backs.