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Always the victim...Jihadi John the masked executioner described as kind and gentle

CactusPilot1 said:
Maybe the Muslim Boy next door is the reason he's afraid to go outside. Stays inside and thinks of his one-liners 😉
 
Suffers from predator drone fear syndrome........
 
Ms Tree said:
 
 
 
If you  think the above people are ignorant as well, I guess that is your opinion.  They, along with many others seem to understand thsat economics plays a roll. 
 
 
 
So we giving ISIS 96 weeks unemployment and food stamps now?
 
Economics has no place in Islamic fundamentalism........you will never ever fathom that bit of reality.
 
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
I agree with CactusPilot1.
 
You are the king of blind delusions and misrepresentations Tree. 
 

This coming from the person who thinks that common core has a curriculum.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
Here we have another victim which is misunderstood and became a radical because of the evils of British society.

He's college educated in computer science where there are plenty of jobs. Marie Harf's solution is really not a solution at all. It's time we stop trying to understand these people, make excuses for their murderous ideology.

Call them what they are, Islamic extremists. Period.
 
There are plenty of jobs, but if the British intelligence services want to make sure you have a hard time getting one there or in Kuwait then you're out of luck.  Governments have an easy enough time making life hell for law-abiding citizens, I'm sure there's a lot they can do to really mess with you if they suspect you're up to no good.  However that in itself isn't enough to compel someone to put on a ninja outfit and cut other people's heads off.  Then again, I've never received the Guantanamo treatment.
 
Whether it's Islamic extremism or fundamentalism is an important distinction.  I don't think Islam is a religion of peace, although I think the great majority of Muslims are peaceful people.  Extremism suggests they've subverted core beliefs and strongly deviate from orthodoxy; fundamentalism suggests they simply adhere literally to the doctrines that advocate death for apostasy and blasphemy and fetishize martyrdom and jihad.
 
There's not much to understand.  In the face of a totalitarian ideology, otherwise decent, moral people can do the most heinous and depraved things since they surrender their personal will to that of their cause.  There is nothing a faithful man won't do if he believes with every fiber of his being that it's the will of his almighty creator, and that will can be found in a convenient book that puts it all down in black and white.
 
Ms Tree said:
If you  think the above people are ignorant as well, I guess that is your opinion.  They, along with many others seem to understand thsat economics plays a roll. 
 
Economics absolutely plays a role, but it isn't a cure-all, and it only goes so far in nations where a corrupt elite run the show and civil society chafes on all sides against medievalist religiosity.  You have masses of unemployed youth in these nations who feel there's no prospect for prosperity and resent their governments and resent the West; it's little wonder the banner of jihad and the chance to find glory by fighting for God against infidels and crusaders appeals to them.
 
Without a functional, educated middle class, compulsory education, rule of law, transparent governance, and a degree of social tolerance that fosters new ideas and innovations economics and jobs are only going to go so far in dissuading people with otherwise nothing else to lose from becoming jihadis.  So far Turkey is the only Muslim country to really pull this off, and it took generations to achieve.
 
delldude said:
So we giving ISIS 96 weeks unemployment and food stamps now?
 
Economics has no place in Islamic fundamentalism........you will never ever fathom that bit of reality.
 
Of the many ideological reasons the Mujaheddin fought the Soviet invaders of Afghanistan in the 1980's was that they were offended by the idea that people under communism could decide how wealth be distributed, it is, after all, the prerogative of Allah to determine who should be rich and who should be poor.  If you think those working to re-establish a Caliphate are ignoring the economic necessities of it you're sorely mistaken.
 
Yes Muhammad Atta, Bin Laden, al Zawahiri, etc., and most terrorists are misunderstood and in search for jobs. Lets continue to justify the fact that terrorists use your own weapons against you as they continue to advance their agenda of destroying western culture and establishing a caliphate that would qualify you to dhimmi status or a beheading.
 
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
You are wasting your efforts. You could take a nail and hammer it to his forehead and he still would not see it.
 

The efforts are wasted on you. Common Core is a federal standard. The link you posted is from NY. I posted the link to the Federal Common Core standards which you obviously failed to read other wise you would not have posted some stupid link to the New York curriculum designed to meet the Common Core standards. New York is a state in the union . As the Common Core standards say, the states may design curriculums as they see fit to meet the CC standards.

There are many reasons not to like CC. Curriculum is not one of them as THERE IS NO CURRICULUM.
 
Never said economics was a cure all, just a piece of the puzzle. The OP posted that "Marie Harf says that jobs for terrorists will stop these Islamic Radicals". I merely pointed out that she did not say that and that the idea of economics being a factor in the ME has been mentioned before.

For many here it is easier to blame the messenger just because she is a democrat as opposed to actually listening to what is said and argue the facts.
 
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
I posted no link. That was delldude.
 
Your blinders are working overtime Ms Tree.
 

So he posted it. Who cares. Fact still stands that the NY link does not disprove anything and Common Core does not have any curriculum.

 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Education REQUIREMENTS?
 
That is a joke. Have you seen some of the Common Core material?
 
Be careful less that "education" becomes a medium for distributing propaganda.
 

Still Wrong.
 
Ms Tree said:
Never said economics was a cure all, just a piece of the puzzle. The OP posted that "Marie Harf says that jobs for terrorists will stop these Islamic Radicals". I merely pointed out that she did not say that and that the idea of economics being a factor in the ME has been mentioned before.

For many here it is easier to blame the messenger just because she is a democrat as opposed to actually listening to what is said and argue the facts.
How about watching the interview for a more informed opinion:

Did Marie Harf just say jobs will defeat ISIS? [Hint: Yes … and let the mocking begin!]

http://twitchy.com/2015/02/17/did-marie-harf-just-say-jobs-will-defeat-isis-hint-yes-and-let-the-mocking-begin/
 
First of all Mathews is an idiot. Aside from that, he cut her off. She was not even able to finish her thought. Note that she said causes not cause.

Try watching a video of the entire interview as opposed to the ones that stop right at the point where Mathews cuts her off.
 

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