American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

I recall you saying that catering was saved because of the class 2 station pay language.
So, I guess all those people should line up to thank YOU? never mind, as I read very last line in your post, you already said YOURE WELCOME.

Catering was included in the "Take it or leave it" Offer this past August. Sito knew when he was a moron and said no due to some IAM Pension fussing, the company would lift the offer prior to leaving the room. It did. Now, Catering is gone.

At any rate, I could have negotiated this contract, and saved LUS health care and catering since I know my stuff and always get the job done. I would have had this wrapped up in the first 6 months. Unfortunately, Mr Baskett and Bi Polar Peterson didn't understand that when they gave up cross utilization that it changed everything forever. Sorta how Sito and Baskett (And even Eivers) were clueless on how the IAM United contract would affect us. Just dumb dumb dumb peeps when it comes to negotiations and leverage.

 

[Tim Nelson]

How is 5/11/95 at FLL? If you went there you could have less downtime as the operation is more distributed unlike a banked hub. Why haven’t you put in for FLL like you keep saying?

Josh

me and weez will be working together soon. Hopefully he can at least drink a coffee with me.

 

[Tim Nelson]

AGCs should be getting pay cuts since they pissed away all leverage. Idiots.

 

[ALUS78]

The Association asked for more than 7% on DOS.

Trying to be realistic and reasonable

 

[ALUS78]

It was NOT better....there were millions of dollars of gains that were cut out of the 2nd agreement. Go back and look. Just for starters, all of the snap backs were removed.....start there and do your math[/QUOTEl
I've moved on, but I'll take you on your word

 

[ALUS78]

Not debating whether he's irrelevant or not bro, and honestly don't care. But you seem to be the one giving him relevance by your continual replies and comments to his posts. Let it go...

I'd buy this man a beer and if hes not going to drink it I will

 

[Kev3188]

Not debating whether he's irrelevant or not bro, and honestly don't care. But you seem to be the one giving him relevance by your continual replies and comments to his posts. Let it go...

Ironic, isn't it?

 

[PIEDMONT784]

Ironic, isn't it?

"Irony" is the persistence of acting as a spokesperson for the membership when one is not even appointed or elected to represent them. Even more ironic, is the fact that the membership has soundly rejected any such overtures in an official election.

"Irony" is the insistence that the same election was biased and corrupted, even after the DOL rejected a filed complaint regarding the same...

 

[B737 driver]

December 15, 2018

Brothers and Sisters,

THE TWU/IAM Association executive negotiating committee participated on a conference call conducted by National Mediation Board mediators yesterday, December 14, 2018. Negotiators from American Airlines also participated.

The mediators recapped the remaining open items to be negotiated. They also set the agenda and negotiating schedule for the beginning of 2019. The Association presented our objections to the Company’s proposal covering Field Trip Guidelines for M&R and MLS members and further discussion towards resolution will take place in SFO, as time permits.

The next face-to-face negotiations are scheduled for January 15-17 in San Francisco. Topics to be discussed are open economic pay elements, health & welfare (insurance), duration of the agreement, field trips and other open contract language items.

We were successful in obtaining additional negotiating dates on the calendar. Scheduled negotiating dates are:

• January 15, 16, 17
• January 29, 30, 31
• February 6, 7, 8
• February 12, 13, 14

And an additional week in March – specific dates to be determined

Our objective is to reach an agreement as soon as possible without having to use all of our scheduled dates. However, this Association is committed to achieving the compensation, healthcare, retirement and job security that our members have earned and deserve. Your continued support and solidarity are both appreciated and necessary to reach these goals.

We wish all of our members a safe and happy holiday season.

Fraternally,

Your Association Executive Negotiating Committee

Still more than us, sounds like we need your mediator.

 

[Tim Nelson]

"Irony" is the persistence of acting as a spokesperson for the membership when one is not even appointed or elected to represent them. Even more ironic, is the fact that the membership has soundly rejected any such overtures in an official election.

"Irony" is the insistence that the same election was biased and corrupted, even after the DOL rejected a filed complaint regarding the same...

The DOL didn't reject anything. You must not have heard that the regional office of the DOL is being investigated on this particular case. As such, the Secretary has refused to put out the 'statement of reasons' which ALWAYS follows a determination UNLESS something corrupt is being investigated.

To be sure, I've moved on and will never be a candidate in the IAM again, even though I had massive support and got around 50% per capita of the entire union under the most undemocratic method of voting at 6am-8am in the morning. The structure is condemned and the union is corporate now so I decided to testify for the DOL in the case, which I did, and hopefully they will come to the fair conclusion that the regional DOL office was in collusion with the IAM or that it was negligent in its duties. Amazingly, Uncle Donnie's Secretary of Labor got back with me when I wrote to him and someone is investigating this.

But, you can check the dol website, there is no statement of reasons that will be given since the reasons are now being investigated. LMAO.

Like I said, I resigned my membership, but I'm hoping that Uncle Donnie finds out that the regional office was in cahoots and that, for sure, the field investigator will be fired. If there were any emails or notes from that office that were in collusion with the IAM then maybe someone from the IAM Legal or an Officer.

But the case is still open, pending any outcome of collusion or gross negligence.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

The DOL didn't reject anything. You must not have heard that the regional office of the DOL is being investigated on this particular case. As such, the Secretary has refused to put out the 'statement of reasons' which ALWAYS follows a determination UNLESS something corrupt is being investigated.

To be sure, I've moved on and will never be a candidate in the IAM again, even though I had massive support and got around 50% per capita of the entire union under the most undemocratic method of voting at 6am-8am in the morning. The structure is condemned and the union is corporate now so I decided to testify for the DOL in the case, which I did, and hopefully they will come to the fair conclusion that the regional DOL office was in collusion with the IAM or that it was negligent in its duties. Amazingly, Uncle Donnie's Secretary of Labor got back with me when I wrote to him and someone is investigating this.

But, you can check the dol website, there is no statement of reasons that will be given since the reasons are now being investigated. LMAO.

Like I said, I resigned my membership, but I'm hoping that Uncle Donnie finds out that the regional office was in cahoots and that, for sure, the field investigator will be fired. If there were any emails or notes from that office that were in collusion with the IAM then maybe someone from the IAM Legal or an Officer.

But the case is still open, pending any outcome of collusion or gross negligence.

Why not just go to work for "Uncle Donny"? Screw this penny-ante anti-union stuff. He needs hundreds of positions filled...
Make yourself some real money, and have free access to Aeroflot flights globally!

 

[WeAAsles]

Still more than us, sounds like we need your mediator.

Since this is only the beginning of Mediated sessions and the parties have most of the articles already completed my guess is the Mediator would be willing to engage in these marathon sessions hoping to close it out?

If movement stalls on either side is when you may see the Mediator schedule less sessions hoping to amp up pressure through frustrations of less talks.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Why not just go to work for "Uncle Donny"? Screw this penny-ante anti-union stuff. He needs hundreds of positions filled...
Make yourself some real money, and have free access to Aeroflot flights globally!

I've done very well financially. Not looking for a gig from the pro worker Uncle Donnie. My calling is to stand against corporate greed, so I fight the IAM organization fiercely to root out as much greed and crime as I can. It's a corporate union and must go. It hasn't done anything for the members in 20 years other than stand in the way of progress. Even now, it's more concerned with expanding dues than letting us vote. Something is wrong with a CEO had to beg Klemm to give us a 18% pay hike and profit sharing just to keep up with non union people. Klemm initially balked and asked Parker for favor, but after the TWU begged him so they could get their millions in a dues grab, he finally agreed that the company can offer non union wages and non union profit sharing, which oddly was about 20% more than what union wages were.

Unfortunately, the dope gave the company cross utilization and all leverage. Should have closed out the JCBA instead.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

My calling is to stand against corporate greed,

LOL! Dude -- You stand for EVERYTHING that PROMOTES corporate greed... like your boy Donny, you just create your own reality...
Your own facts... your own truth... and your own supporters!

>SPIT<

 

[ALUS78]

Since this is only the beginning of Mediated sessions and the parties have most of the articles already completed my guess is the Mediator would be willing to engage in these marathon sessions hoping to close it out?

If movement stalls on either side is when you may see the Mediator schedule less sessions hoping to amp up pressure through frustrations of less talks.

You're reading alot into that only someone with the glass half full would interpret it that way.After all this chit your spirit hasn't been broken