AMR talks about training fill-in flight attendants

[Hatu]

AMR Corp., the parent company of American Airlines, may be looking into the possibility of training replacement flight attendants if a strike erupts after the company and its flight attendants end a long period of contract discussions following a final meeting later this month.

http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stori....html?ana=yfcpc

 

[Barfbag]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCX2JjqLOGk...feature=related

 

[TWU informer]

Go ask Crandall how that plan worked out for him.

 

[AirwAr]

Go ask Crandall how that plan worked out for him.

Or the AMFA at Northwest.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

At least one union on the property is willing to go down fighting. Unlike the twu their worthless slogans and their willingness to bend over for the company.

 

[MERV]

AA is starting to get ready for a group to strike but will it be like what NW did with their MXs employees. Than you see the union work something out with the company. I am not calling for strike but if all employees went on strike to send a message to AA then it would work. Saying it easy but it will be hard do. Either that or courts or the government would step in to stop the strike.

 

[Hopeful]

The TWU and APA need to support the flight attendants. The company is banking on either union honoring the FA picket line!



ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

 

[Rogallo]

I can't wait for the company spin doctors to chime in on this one. Where you guys at? Getting a briefing from the company on what to say!!!

 

[Maark767]

I can't wait for the company spin doctors to chime in on this one. Where you guys at? Getting a briefing from the company on what to say!!!

Here is something to think about.....
With how important security is on the airplane these days, I cant imagine a 10 day trained F/A being able to know what to look for and know the signs of what doesn't feel right.
This whole idea of training someone for 10 days is from yesteryear. We are in a different world today than in 1993 (last strike from AA F/As). EVERYONE will be watching ..... Dont count on a 10 day trained F/A to keep you safe at 35,000 feet. My advice, stay off that airplane...

 

[BoeingBoy]

There's really not much to spin. As the article says, such planning is pretty standard when crunch time in negotiations is nearing and there's the possibility of a job action following the end of the cooling off period.

I'd be surprised if anything is actually done before an impasse is declared by the NMB since the FAA has allowed training replacement FA's in under a week in such situations. Add that the most likely job action is CHAOS and management's estimation of the effect of replacing a couple of dozen FA's that engage in CHAOS would have on the FA group's support for a job action, and it's at least likely that AA will do nothing before the end of the cooling off period than put together a list of employees willing to undergo abbreviated FA training if necessary.

Jim

 

[gasman]

Here is something to think about.....
With how important security is on the airplane these days, I cant imagine a 10 day trained F/A being able to know what to look for and know the signs of what doesn't feel right.
This whole idea of training someone for 10 days is from yesteryear. We are in a different world today than in 1993 (last strike from AA F/As). EVERYONE will be watching ..... Dont count on a 10 day trained F/A to keep you safe at 35,000 feet. My advice, stay off that airplane...

This isn't anything like APFA's 93 (three day) strike. The odds are stacked up against APFA this time around. Let's review

550 recently furloughed former TWA f/as
1,400 + furloughed former TWA f/as awaiting recall
4,000 + that have already fallen off the recall list
2,000 + that have already retired
Add the % of AA f/as that crossed in 93
Include the bottom 600 + that might be furloughed by August 2010 (they would be locked out if they strike) for many years.
Add the 1,500 + Managers that would fly
Include the additional AA f/as that would be afraid of a lock out.

It looks like AA would be real close to a full staffing for operational needs.

APFA hasn't made a statement regarding AA's training plan.

APFA needs to give the former TWA f/as a reason not to cross their picket line!

 

[SKY HIGH]

Let's review

550 recently furloughed former TWA f/as
1,400 + furloughed former TWA f/as awaiting recall
4,000 + that have already fallen off the recall list
2,000 + that have already retired
Add the % of AA f/as that crossed in 93
Include the bottom 600 + that might be furloughed by August 2010 (they would be locked out if they strike) for many years.
Add the 1,500 + Managers that would fly
Include the additional AA f/as that would be afraid of a lock out.

It looks like AA would be real close to a full staffing for operational needs.

.........LETS SEE how they replace those CHAOS strikers, who walk off the aircraft IN THE MIDDLE OF A TRIP, ANY TIME OF THE DAY, ANY DESTINATION. OR strike for an hour and then go back to work.

 

[gasman]

.........LETS SEE how they replace those CHAOS strikers, who walk off the aircraft IN THE MIDDLE OF A TRIP, ANY TIME OF THE DAY, ANY DESTINATION. OR strike for an hour and then go back to work.

Good Luck to any and all CHAOS STRIKERS, they will be on the streets for a long time and will need to depend on APFA to get their jobs back! More CHAOS STRIKERS that walk off will be replaced by a recall of former TWA f/as!

 

[The Goose]

Good Luck to any and all CHAOS STRIKERS, they will be on the streets for a long time and will need to depend on APFA to get their jobs back! More CHAOS STRIKERS that walk off will be replaced by a recall of former TWA f/as!

I echo that sentiment - if that's what comes down, good luck to them.

AMR will do what they damned well please anyway and are probably positioning for another "look how bad off we are" session. The TWU (Totally Worthless Union) is beginning to put out that info.

Make 'em file.

 

[Vortilon]

This isn't anything like APFA's 93 (three day) strike. The odds are stacked up against APFA this time around. Let's review

550 recently furloughed former TWA f/as
1,400 + furloughed former TWA f/as awaiting recall
4,000 + that have already fallen off the recall list
2,000 + that have already retired
Add the % of AA f/as that crossed in 93
Include the bottom 600 + that might be furloughed by August 2010 (they would be locked out if they strike) for many years.
Add the 1,500 + Managers that would fly
Include the additional AA f/as that would be afraid of a lock out.

It looks like AA would be real close to a full staffing for operational needs.

APFA hasn't made a statement regarding AA's training plan.

APFA needs to give the former TWA f/as a reason not to cross their picket line!

You are doing a lot of supposing with these figures. The company would be lucky to get half of your figures. On top of that, since the pilots, AMTs, and baggage handlers are currently in negotiations - I don't see anybody going the extra mile to get an on time departure.