Another reason for strong labor representation

[UnionAMT]

Here's something for "dapoe" to critique http://www.infowars.com/on-taxes-both-republicans-and-democrats-doing-the-bidding-of-globalist-gangsters/

 

[dapoes]

Here's something for "dapoe" to critique http://www.infowars.com/on-taxes-both-republicans-and-democrats-doing-the-bidding-of-globalist-gangsters/

 

[dapoes]

Sorry Charlie, if Howard Dean is involved in the debate then I know its gonna be knee deep in cow dung.

 

[southwind]

What part of this do you not comprehend ?

"The tax class under the gun are predominately small business owners, doctors, and small retail and manufacturing entrepreneurs who collectively employ nearly half of the nation’s workforce. Democrats are determined to rob them blind with their taxation and wealth redistribution scheme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwODbl3muE

 

[yoyodyne]

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[dapoes]

Hmmm....

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Haha love it!

 

[UPNAWAY]

Big business is the same as big unions and big government, the un-holy trinity is the one screwing all the rest of us over..
If you think Unions look out for the middle class your very misinformed.

 

[eolesen]

Ha!... The purple shirted thugs from the SEIU had no problem being labor's voice on health care reform, yet were one of the first to pull back benefits for its members when the true costs of HCR started coming out...

Unions have probably done just as much to eliminate the middle class as corporations have. Maybe more.

 

[Kev3188]

IMO, Andy Stern was a greater enemy of labor than many corporations and politicians could ever hope to be. Somewhere along the way, he started to believe his own hype, and lost his way.

I couldn't have been happier to see him leave.

 

[robbedagain]

always though frank (bozo) lorenzo was the worst of the worst and might even add carl ichan right with him

 

[eolesen]

always though frank (bozo) lorenzo was the worst of the worst and might even add carl ichan right with him

I'll take guys like Lorenzo and Icahn anytime. There was never any doubt about what their motives were.

 

[Bob Owens]

Unions have probably done just as much to eliminate the middle class as corporations have. Maybe more.

Agreed, they should have been setting up pickets instead of joining all these union busting "Working Together" "Partnerships". The fact is that the more passive labor is the faster workers lose. Look at how much labor has declined and look at the frequency of strikes, you will see that the last twenty years could be described as the most "peaceful", when it comes to strikes, in history.

 

[Bob Owens]

IMO, Andy Stern was a greater enemy of labor than many corporations and politicians could ever hope to be. Somewhere along the way, he started to believe his own hype, and lost his way.

I couldn't have been happier to see him leave.

How so? Did his union accept a couple of million $ to convince their members to accept concessions? (IAM/USAIR 2002)

 

[Kev3188]

Under Stern, the SEIU had a bad habit of agreeing to substandard CBA's in exchange for companies recognizing the union as the collective bargaining agent w/o a fight.

 

[Bob Owens]

Under Stern, the SEIU had a bad habit of agreeing to substandard CBA's in exchange for companies recognizing the union as the collective bargaining agent w/o a fight.

Fair enough, I liked what he had to say in the beginning about restructuring the labor movement but he became too obsessed with organizing more heads instead of consolidating and reorganizing what was already organized. The best organizing tool is results. Unfortunately most of todays leaders, once they get their $200k union salary along with the perks like free cars and more start thinking of the members as widjets instead of people. Nobody wants to step on anybodys toes, the good of the movement, and the workers comes second. If Union shops got great deals then they would not have to hire organizers-the unrepresented would come looking for them.

Our industry is one of the last strongholds (percentage wise) of unionized labor, even Delta has some unionized workers, but we are split up every which way between several different unions with no coherant structure or objective, it seems like any union will take any group of workers, other than ALPA and the AFA can you call any of the other AFL-CIO unions that represent Airline workers an "Airline workers union" or even "a transportation workers union"? No, they all dabble in other industries, they diversify because its better for their bottom line even though it weakens the labor movement. As a result we are weak, but the guys running the unions dont take pay cuts and do very well for themselves.