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This should make you sleep better at night Gar!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21729395/

...and to think the world sets by while an Islamofacist country makes no bones about its intentions for Israel and the West while it is aquiring nuke capabilities.

Dialogue with terrorist you say? :lol:
 
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And yet we will continue to give aid to them.

This is a country that's going through extraordinarily difficult circumstances," Rice told ABC's "This Week."

"But it is an ally, it is a friend. And we believe that, at a time like this, our best role is to counsel and indeed persuade that Pakistan has got to get back on the democratic path that it had established."


Since Rice said they are an ally I will sleep much better at night. At least right up until I see the bright flash of light.
 
Since Rice said they are an ally I will sleep much better at night. At least right up until I see the bright flash of light.

Much like Saddam was once.

The tea leaves say there will be nukes held by radicals.
 
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And yet we will continue to give aid to them.

This is a country that's going through extraordinarily difficult circumstances," Rice told ABC's "This Week."

"But it is an ally, it is a friend. And we believe that, at a time like this, our best role is to counsel and indeed persuade that Pakistan has got to get back on the democratic path that it had established."


Since Rice said they are an ally I will sleep much better at night. At least right up until I see the bright flash of light.

So exactly what do you suggest we do?

Invade as Obama suggested?

Impose more sanctions?

More Dialogue?

Dude the genie already popped the cork, code named (Trinity) it happened on July 16, 1945 southeast of Socorro, New Mexico.

If your lucky you will be asleep when that bright flash lights up your bedroom! :up:
 
The tea leaves say there will be nukes Used by radicals.
And now for my prediction. Yes, there will be nukes used by radicals. The radicals are led by George W Bush and Dick Cheney, and they will use them by March 2008...on Iran. Need to get the job done before the heat of the summer you know.
 
So exactly what do you suggest we do?

Invade as Obama suggested?

Impose more sanctions?

More Dialogue?

Dude the genie already popped the cork, code named (Trinity) it happened on July 16, 1945 southeast of Socorro, New Mexico.

If your lucky you will be asleep when that bright flash lights up your bedroom! :up:


That ship has sailed. Nothing to do now but hold on and duck. With any luck, the roaches will survive and rebuild.
 
The tea leaves say there will be nukes Used by radicals.

You know all too well that Iranian clown thinks he can usher in the second coming of Allah or Jesus depending on your timely

perspective on religion and who's right.

Dude the genie already popped the cork, code named (Trinity) it happened on July 16, 1945 southeast of Socorro, New Mexico.

Yep...you and I know the Genie only comes out for extreme purposes(see below statement).....the Islamic wacko's will use it

for their own agenda.

And now for my prediction. Yes, there will be nukes used by radicals. The radicals are led by George W Bush and Dick Cheney, and they will use them by March 2008...on Iran. Need to get the job done before the heat of the summer you know.

Ehh...I can see their reason and justification.These facilities are buried and are quite hardened as far as bombing

goes...whats one to do against a concrete hardened target some 50 feet or more below the surface?Don't give me some

moral horsecrap either....you don't want Islamic Nukes...this is what it will cost.
 
Apparently our former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. is seriously concerned:

"Make no mistake: This is a very dangerous situation," said John Bolton, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

Musharraf is in a difficult spot, Bolton said. "Even the military is filled with Islamic fundamentalists that he's tried to keep in lower positions." "But they're pervasive," he said. "And he doesn't have the flexibility of a real military dictator."

But Bolton told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that he would urge the United States to continue to back Musharraf, whose government has received $10 billion in U.S. aid since 2001.

security of Pakistan's nukes
 
And whether or not we back him....he's toast in the next election and he knows it....so now whats a dictator to do?

And we will have a bingo here as far as radical fundamentalists controlling the Big Nuke.
 
And whether or not we back him....he's toast in the next election and he knows it....so now whats a dictator to do?

And we will have a bingo here as far as radical fundamentalists controlling the Big Nuke.


Yeah. It is interesting to note Bolton's tone in that article. When he says that the primary concern should be the control of the Nukes, it seems to suggest that he is advocating the the suspension of law, human rights, and everything else in order to protect those military weapons from being placed into the wrong hands.

While there seems to be an abundance of coverage coming from the region, I cannot find anything of real substance to give me a real knowledge base concerning the situation. In other words, I do not think the information, at this point, is sufficient to fully understand whether Musharraf is doing all these seemingly-horrible things just so he can hold on to his position for a little longer, or whether it is truly necessary in order to protect the greater good.
 
Ehh...I can see their reason and justification.These facilities are buried and are quite hardened as far as bombing

goes...whats one to do against a concrete hardened target some 50 feet or more below the surface?Don't give me some

moral horsecrap either....you don't want Islamic Nukes...this is what it will cost.
You do realize that Ambayabadabadingdong doesn't hold the final say in that...don't you? That goes to Ayatollah Kahmeni...you also remember that he was the first Muslim country to condemn the 9/11 attacks, don't you? You do realize that Iran is ruled by a sect that opposes al queda...don't you? Naw...you don't realize any of that - you're just listening to Bush fan the flames for starting another war in the middle east. Who's going to fight it? Does this mean the draft is coming back?
 
You do realize that Iran is ruled by a sect that opposes al queda...don't you?

Thats odd....I distinctly remember reports of Al Qeida getting safe passage in and through Iran.And what of all the Iranian IED's and rockets and such brought into eastern Iraq?And the Iranian military advisor's US soldiers captured?

Duh.......
A senior U.S. official told TIME that the Commission has uncovered evidence suggesting that between eight and ten of the 14 "muscle" hijackers—that is, those involved in gaining control of the four 9/11 aircraft and subduing the crew and passengers—passed through Iran in the period from October 2000 to February 2001. Sources also tell TIME that Commission investigators found that Iran had a history of allowing al-Qaeda members to enter and exit Iran across the Afghan border. This practice dated back to October 2000, with Iranian officials issuing specific instructions to their border guards—in some cases not to put stamps in the passports of al-Qaeda personnel—and otherwise not harass them and to facilitate their travel across the frontier. The report does not, however, offer evidence that Iran was aware of the plans for the 9/11 attacks.The senior official also told TIME that the report will note that Iranian officials approached the al-Qaeda leadership after the bombing of the USS Cole and proposed a collaborative relationship in future attacks on the U.S., but the offer was turned down by bin Laden because he did not want to alienate his supporters in Saudi Arabia.

Double duh....
Further evidence of Iran's support of the Shia death squads and Sunni al Qaeda has emerged. At the end of December, two Iranian agents of the Qods force were arrested in a SCIRI compound in Baghdad. The Iraqi government was angry over the arrests, as the Iranians were part of a diplomatic delegation, and the agents were later released and deported.


But the Washington Post reported the two Iranian intelligence agents captured in Baghdad possessed "weapons lists, documents pertaining to shipments of weapons into Iraq, organizational charts, telephone records and maps, among other sensitive intelligence information... [and] information about importing modern, specially shaped explosive charges into Iraq." One was "the third-highest-ranking official of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' al-Qods Brigade."

The New York Sun described the documents as "the equivalent of Iran's Iraq Study Group" which "show how the Qods Force — the arm of Iran's revolutionary guard that supports Shiite Hezbollah, Sunni Hamas, and Shiite death squads — is working with individuals affiliated with Al Qaeda in Iraq and Ansar al-Sunna." "We found plans for attacks, phone numbers affiliated with Sunni bad guys, a lot of things that filled in the blanks on what these guys are up to," an intelligence official told the New York Sun.

Iranian involvement with al Qaeda and other Sunni jihadis groups is nothing new, however the conventional wisdom in media and some intelligence circles is Shia Iran could never cooperate with Sunni al Qaeda due to ideological differences. This ignores a mountain of evidence to the contrary, such as Iran's sheltering of over 100 al Qaeda leaders, including Said bin Laden, Osama's son, and Saif al-Adel, al Qaeda's strategic planner, or Iranian support of Somalia's Sunni Islamic Courts by providing arms and training.

Triple Duh you also remember that he was the first Muslim country to condemn the 9/11 attacks, don't you?

The 9-11 Commission Report was explicit about Iran's connections with al Qaeda. "The relationship between al Qaeda and Iran demonstrated that Sunni-Shia divisions did not necessarily pose an insurmountable barrier to cooperation in terrorist operations." Contacts between Iran, Hezbollah
and al Qaeda were established in Sudan in the early 1990s. "Al Qaeda members received advice and training from Hezbollah," according the the 9-11 Commission report. Many of al Qaeda's 9-11 hijackers transited through Iran. "After 9/11, Iran and Hezbollah wished to conceal any past evidence of cooperation with Sunni terrorists associated with al Qaeda."

:rant: :rant: :rant:
 
Thats odd....I distinctly remember reports of Al Qeida getting safe passage in and through Iran.And what of all the Iranian IED's and rockets and such brought into eastern Iraq?And the Iranian military advisor's US soldiers captured?

Duh.......

Double duh....

Triple Duh you also remember that he was the first Muslim country to condemn the 9/11 attacks, don't you?



:rant: :rant: :rant:
I see you failed to address that Amawhatshisname is pretty much a figurehead president. He can rant all he wants about anything (remember Saddam???) but he doesn't have the authority to do anything...and Khameini isn't what I'd call his strongest supporter.
 

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