Arline Employees Stealing Liquor From Planes

[Jester]

I'm shocked! Shocked! Shocked to find.... oh wait...

Hell, I have seen guys walking down jetway bridges with cargo pocket pants full of mini-bottles bulging out the sides, then later saw one popping off a few in the shuttle bus ride to the parking lot.

If there is something in demand which is expensive with little control, and throw in an addiction... I'm shocked...

So Lampoons Jester.

 

[ChockJockey]

I'm shocked no one's yet tried to make some snarky and unfunny joke about Parker or Kirby being responsible for the missing alcohol. You guys are slipping...

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

I'm shocked no one's yet tried to make some snarky and unfunny joke about Parker or Kirby being responsible for the missing alcohol. You guys are slipping...

Doug Parker is a beer, not liquor, drinker dontcha know.

 

[Phoenix]

I'm shocked no one's yet tried to make some snarky and unfunny joke about Parker or Kirby being responsible for the missing alcohol. You guys are slipping...

Are you suggesting that the story is a cover for "doctor shopping"?

 

[signals]

I think SparrowHawk already called him Doug Partyer! We have a winner

 

[signals]

Doug Parker is a beer, not liquor, drinker dontcha know.

Maybe he's going for a quicker buzz

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

I'm shocked no one's yet tried to make some snarky and unfunny joke about Parker or Kirby being responsible for the missing alcohol. You guys are slipping...

Maybe not unfunny.

When scads of beer showed up on transatlantic flights with past due sell by dates resulting in beer being parked in PHL, I could only assume Dougwieser would eventually show up in PHL. OMG, he did. Ostentatiously for another reason, but, he did show.

Do I need to point out that the CEO is a three letter word that lives in a sty? Really?

 

[ChockJockey]

Do I need to point out that the CEO is a three letter word that lives in a sty? Really?

Actually I believe he lives in a very expensive home.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I must not be paying attention. How the heck did we go from theft to Doug Parker?

I know someone who worked at Macy's and I was shocked to learn that of the total amount of theft from a store, 70% was employee theft. I can assure you that despite my love of gin, I was not in an airport on the date in question. Although free booze does taste better than the same booze if you pay for it yourself!

 

[flybynite]

There is no inventory control and has never been any kind of inventory control since the demise of Piedmont Airlines. At Piedmont, we actually locked up the liquor. With little Master locks. We had keys to unlock the kits. Our caterers put them on board locked up....and they were removed locked up with the cash. And boy, if the numbers didn't mesh...you were called in about a day from your supervisor.

Since the merger with USAir....their system was different...and full of flaws with no inventory control. AWA is no different either. Lousy accounting but they are trying to improve.

We have planes flying all over the system with unknown amounts of inventory...food and liquor. We use the HHD's now but we don't know if they're accurate..if the numbers are being recorded properly. If at all.

Bottom line here is...at the very least, they need to pull all liquor off the planes when they come in for their RON's and lock it up. And then put it back on board in the mornings.

 

[mikey60]

There is no inventory control and has never been any kind of inventory control since the demise of Piedmont Airlines. At Piedmont, we actually locked up the liquor. With little Master locks. We had keys to unlock the kits. Our caterers put them on board locked up....and they were removed locked up with the cash. And boy, if the numbers didn't mesh...you were called in about a day from your supervisor.

Since the merger with USAir....their system was different...and full of flaws with no inventory control. AWA is no different either. Lousy accounting but they are trying to improve.

We have planes flying all over the system with unknown amounts of inventory...food and liquor. We use the HHD's now but we don't know if they're accurate..if the numbers are being recorded properly. If at all.

Bottom line here is...at the very least, they need to pull all liquor off the planes when they come in for their RON's and lock it up. And then put it back on board in the mornings.

On a basis of 1 to 100 of the problems at this place this ranks about # 4597.

 

[SparrowHawk]

There is no inventory control and has never been any kind of inventory control since the demise of Piedmont Airlines. At Piedmont, we actually locked up the liquor. With little Master locks. We had keys to unlock the kits. Our caterers put them on board locked up....and they were removed locked up with the cash. And boy, if the numbers didn't mesh...you were called in about a day from your supervisor.

Since the merger with USAir....their system was different...and full of flaws with no inventory control. AWA is no different either. Lousy accounting but they are trying to improve.

We have planes flying all over the system with unknown amounts of inventory...food and liquor. We use the HHD's now but we don't know if they're accurate..if the numbers are being recorded properly. If at all.

Bottom line here is...at the very least, they need to pull all liquor off the planes when they come in for their RON's and lock it up. And then put it back on board in the mornings.

I have often watched the folks "seal" the liquor in F on the late flights coming into PHL and it occurred to me that the procedure seemed lax and full of enough holes to where one could walk off with the entire inventory with little effort or fear of getting caught. Apparently someone else thought the same thing and acted.

This is one of those things that comes down to dollars and sense. There is no doubt that US Airways could stop the theft system wide. The problem is would the cost exceed the value of the items that were not stolen. Clearly if this has gone on for years the answer is it costs to much to have meaningful security regarding liquor. Now you have Tempe trying to tighten things up without any cost increase to do so.

What many may not know is that in other businesses such as retail, 70% of the theft is by employees. Sadly this is not an isolated incident just a publicized one and US is not unique.

 

[ggiby]

There is no inventory control and has never been any kind of inventory control since the demise of Piedmont Airlines. At Piedmont, we actually locked up the liquor. With little Master locks. We had keys to unlock the kits. Our caterers put them on board locked up....and they were removed locked up with the cash. And boy, if the numbers didn't mesh...you were called in about a day from your supervisor.

Since the merger with USAir....their system was different...and full of flaws with no inventory control. AWA is no different either. Lousy accounting but they are trying to improve.

We have planes flying all over the system with unknown amounts of inventory...food and liquor. We use the HHD's now but we don't know if they're accurate..if the numbers are being recorded properly. If at all.

Bottom line here is...at the very least, they need to pull all liquor off the planes when they come in for their RON's and lock it up. And then put it back on board in the mornings.

You are so correct.... I remember those days as well... if you did not have the right amount of cash and liquor in that kit you heard about it ...
Then we MERGED! LOL Oh my gosh... We Merged with an inferior airline... (sound like now????) So we still have no inventory control...???
At least there is no cash to deal with... Could you imagine that??? Yes... pull the liquor off... at night... but in all of those thousand of out stations....
that are really not really ours.... who will do it... Heck... we can not even get ice there..????? What is up with that... going out in the morning with no ice???

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

I must not be paying attention. How the heck did we go from theft to Doug Parker?

Booze and the serial drunk are kinda tied at the hip. Bring up one and, bingo, you got the other. Like binging (inadvertent misspell but pun intended) up Ying and not mentioning Yang, definitely incomplete.

That aside, my primary worry concerns the drunk's apparent lack of responsibility (only confined to driving?) for the company he supposedly represents. My secondary concern is that those working close to him, the other highly placed occupants in the auto in his last episode, apparently, do not care either. When even their co-workers and "subordinates" become too timid to intervene, one just has to wonder what is going on, is he a dictatorial maniac or the subordinates are so beat up they are willing to step aside and just leave him to the gutter.

Sad, another failure.