Bad fuel loads

[nycbusdriver]

Yes, but the company who embraces employees and makes money will make more money, and will be at less risk in a downturn. The company that pisses on employees will be at much greater risk and subject to less overall stability during volatile times.

US' profits are through manipulation and exploitation of employees and customers. At the end of the day, a company needs happy employees to have happy customers, and to be able to safely endure tough times. If oil spikes again, and/or there is another major downturn in the economy, US will be at much greater risk than WN.

You can only manage by spreadsheet for so long, then reality happens.

To those who have served our country , thank you for your service and may God bless......

My BEST to you all...

Here's the difference in a nutshell:

WN has engendered a boatload of good will with their employees for decades.

If there was some catastrophe that sent oil to $200/gal, it would devastate every airline. The WN employees would step up and make whatever sacrifice was needed to keep the corporation alive.

That wouldn't happen at USAirways. Enough of the employee groups there would simply say "full pay till the last day" and let it go at that. There is no storehouse of good will for US management to cash in on when times turn to crap.

 

[BoeingBoy]

As a retired pilot, does knowing what is going on at the CLT airport everyday, hour by hour, important to you?

No, it's not important. You jumped to the conclusion that I kept track of CLT weather and I think I know why. The truth is that I checked to see if CLT had any ATC delays after the post about having extra fuel. Since that post didn't mention a time of day, I posted what I had found.

Jim

 

[Art at ISP]

Here's the difference in a nutshell:

WN has engendered a boatload of good will with their employees for decades.

If there was some catastrophe that sent oil to $200/gal, it would devastate every airline. The WN employees would step up and make whatever sacrifice was needed to keep the corporation alive.

That wouldn't happen at USAirways. Enough of the employee groups there would simply say "full pay till the last day" and let it go at that. There is no storehouse of good will for US management to cash in on when times turn to crap.

I agree completely but that is just the tip of the iceberg. There is little goodwill with customers at US either, nor is there the desire to put customers first for the most part.

Granted US is a bit better than it was but it still views employees and customers as liabilities rather than assets...and that will eventually come back to bite them.

 

[twoturnin]

Once every now and then the 321 gets to tanker fuel to St Thomas "but" with a return to CLT for various reasons. MTC doesn't want to take a OWL , so it sometimes costs around $7200 and about 2 hrs flt time burn off to accomplish the landing. Wonder how many trips it takes to make up the few returns back to CLT for the tanker costs to work out ??

 

[john john]

Nope, tankering would be indicated on the release.

Happy Memorial Day!

Reserve or tankering what is the difference in terms when fuel remaining onboard is the same?

 

[nevergiveup]

Has anyone noticed lately that when you really need the gas you don't get it unless you ask, and when you don't need it you always get it... Like when the weather is really bad and you know you are going to use it.


600 for contingent fuel and 1000 EXTRA today from EWR-CLT.... had to burn down to TO and then had to fly around burning extra to land at Max Allowable....

I love flying around. $$$

 

[nycbusdriver]

Reserve or tankering what is the difference in terms when fuel remaining onboard is the same?

The difference is in the "Minimum Takeoff Fuel" line on the flight release.

The captain can legally takeoff without the tankering fuel as long as he/she has the "Minimum Takeoff Fuel" (which does not include the tankering load.)

If that fuel is "above" the "Minimum Takeoff Fuel" line and placed in the "Reserve Fuel" line, then the fuel would have to be still in the tanks at takeoff, as the "Minimum Takeoff Fuel" number would then include the "Reserve Fuel" amount.

That's really the only difference. WHen you get to the runway, can you leave without it, or not.