Bad fuel loads

[BoeingBoy]

How would a retired pilot know that?

How would a real pilot not know that?

CTL ELEMENT: CLT
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 0208Z
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 27/0200Z - 27/0300Z
DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (Manual) ZME ZTL ZJX ZDC
PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 0 / 0 / 0
NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 656 / 59 / 39
PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: MEDIUM
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / THUNDERSTORMS
COMMENTS:

 

[700UW]

Typical east pilot with the God Complex, they cant dispute or debate you, they have to personally attack you.

Funny how things never change.

And they wonder why no one supports the east pilots, just like 92.

 

[john john]

Maybe tanking to save on price

 

[autofixer]

Maybe tanking to save on price

Nope, tankering would be indicated on the release.

Happy Memorial Day!

 

[wasone]

It is an East conspiracy and the dispatchers are in on it don't ya know!!

NICDOA
NPJB

Watching as other airlines merge and get on with business and the east and west still fighting,I was just wondering... who you guys are going to blame if and when the airline closes it doors.......us or them

 

[icehead]

Watching as other airlines merge and get on with business and the east and west still fighting,I was just wondering... who you guys are going to blame if and when the airline closes it doors.......us or them

Because of labor discord and division at USAirways the blame would be assigned and rationalized through the prism of emotion not reality. Doug Parker is an excuse making machine and the lackeys and sycophants would buy into it. So plug your ears. But I doubt you will since you asked the question.
Management decisions and philosophies have the greatest impact on success or failure. The NFL, AIG, Fannie and Freddie come to mind. USAirways is lousy place to work, not to mention our consumer rankings. The pay and benefits are substandard except executive pay. Southwest is an exemplary place to work and the pay and benefits are excellent and so are their consumer rankings. Southwest makes money and so does USAirways. So it really does not matter who's to blame. The important distinction to keep in mind is that a company can piss on employees and make money or a company can embrace its employees and make money.

 

[Art at ISP]

Yes, but the company who embraces employees and makes money will make more money, and will be at less risk in a downturn. The company that pisses on employees will be at much greater risk and subject to less overall stability during volatile times.

US' profits are through manipulation and exploitation of employees and customers. At the end of the day, a company needs happy employees to have happy customers, and to be able to safely endure tough times. If oil spikes again, and/or there is another major downturn in the economy, US will be at much greater risk than WN.

You can only manage by spreadsheet for so long, then reality happens.

To those who have served our country , thank you for your service and may God bless......

My BEST to you all...

 

[icehead]

Yes, but the company who embraces employees and makes money will make more money, and will be at less risk in a downturn. The company that pisses on employees will be at much greater risk and subject to less overall stability during volatile times.

US' profits are through manipulation and exploitation of employees and customers. At the end of the day, a company needs happy employees to have happy customers, and to be able to safely endure tough times. If oil spikes again, and/or there is another major downturn in the economy, US will be at much greater risk than WN.

You can only manage by spreadsheet for so long, then reality happens.

To those who have served our country , thank you for your service and may God bless......

My BEST to you all...

I agree completely.

 

[A320 Driver]

Typical east pilot with the God Complex, they cant dispute or debate you, they have to personally attack you.

Funny how things never change.

And they wonder why no one supports the east pilots, just like 92.

And that's not an attack? Sounds pretty freakin personal to me.

Driver B)

 

[700UW]

Not a personal attack on anyone, just an observation.

 

[icehead]

Not to change the settings, but speaking of flap settings, is it normal now to land an Airbus with flaps 3 rather than FULL?

Airbus recommends: To maximize safety margins in normal operation, Airbus SOP still recommends CONF FULL and to use max reverse thrust for landing. But USAirways standard landing CONF is 3. Some of the pro's and con's for landing with CONF 3 or FULL are explained in the Airbus link below from 2007. USAirways Pilots handbook simply says that CONF 3 is the standard configuration for landing, plus a few examples of when to uses CONF FULL. Don't know if Airbus revised their CONF recomendation since 2007. If not our standard policy is contrary to the manufacturer.

http://www.merrowresidents.org.uk/pprune/Conf3.ppt

 

[A320 Driver]

Airbus recommends: To maximize safety margins in normal operation, Airbus SOP still recommends CONF FULL and to use max reverse thrust for landing. But USAirways standard landing CONF is 3. Some of the pro's and con's for landing with CONF 3 or FULL are explained in the Airbus link below from 2007. USAirways Pilots handbook simply says that CONF 3 is the standard configuration for landing, plus a few examples of when to uses CONF FULL. Don't know if Airbus revised their CONF recomendation since 2007. If not our standard policy is contrary to the manufacturer.

http://www.merrowresidents.org.uk/pprune/Conf3.ppt

You have to take some of the Airbus recommedations with a grain of salt. One example would be single engine approaches. We fly them CONF 3. Airbus trains them at CONF FULL. Of course, all departures from the Airbus SOPs are approved by Airbus anyway in the form of NTOs (No Techical Objection). So, we don't operate "contrary" to the manufacturer if you think about it.

Driver B)

 

[Art at ISP]

Thanks for the info all...and now back to our regularly scheduled argument.....

 

[icehead]

You have to take some of the Airbus recommedations with a grain of salt. One example would be single engine approaches. We fly them CONF 3. Airbus trains them at CONF FULL. Of course, all departures from the Airbus SOPs are approved by Airbus anyway in the form of NTOs (No Techical Objection). So, we don't operate "contrary" to the manufacturer if you think about it.

Driver B)

I know there many good reasons to use CONF 3, non normals S/E, W/S conditions high gross weight landings where climb perf is less than ideal. But Airbus does recommend CONF Full to maximize safety. I take that to mean with exceptions. I get the "contrary" part based on the NTO. I didn't realize an NTO was an approval. Thanks

 

[nycbusdriver]

How would a real pilot not know that?

CTL ELEMENT: CLT
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 0208Z
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 27/0200Z - 27/0300Z
DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (Manual) ZME ZTL ZJX ZDC
PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 0 / 0 / 0
NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 656 / 59 / 39
PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: MEDIUM
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / THUNDERSTORMS
COMMENTS:

While I am involved in airline flight operations on a regular basis, I find that knowing the pertinent information for the airport operations at which I conduct flights is important. Real pilots like me could not possibly care less what is happening at CLT on any given day. Why? I don't operate in or out of CLT.

As a retired pilot, does knowing what is going on at the CLT airport everyday, hour by hour, important to you? Sad, really.