Big Surprise! US Airways Airbus A320 will get ETOPS!

[supercruiser]

This is a link on what "ETOPS" means (Extended Range Twin Engine Operational Performance Standard), and a history of how it came about, ETOPS approval, different ETOPS ratings, etc. Quite informational.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS

 

[PHX-F/A]

Do you think that perhaps there will be service from PHX to the Caribbean in the future? It would certainly open up some more doors for US.... eliminate the need to double connect from much of the west coast to get to the Carib.

PHX to Central America. Before the merger there were rumors of future plans for more cities after SJO opened.

ETOPS is helping with PHX CUN

 

[supercruiser]

ETOPS is helping with PHX CUN

PHX-CUN is not ETOPS. Click on the link in the above post to find out what ETOPS really means. ETOPS certification is only currently being used on the 767 and A330 to Europe and the 757 to Hawaii.

 

[luvthe9]

I heard east will ETOPS a few more 757's, thtas about it for now.

 

[FWAAA]

PHX-CUN is not ETOPS. Click on the link in the above post to find out what ETOPS really means. ETOPS certification is only currently being used on the 767 and A330 to Europe and the 757 to Hawaii.

Exactly. The only CUN flights that would need ETOPS certification would be twinjets from cities like MAD, HNL or NRT. Mainland USA-CUN would never be more than a few minutes from land, so no need for EXTENDED overwater twin ops.

 

[supercruiser]

ETOPS basically means flying a twin engine airliner long distance over water, desert, or remote polar areas, where the nearest alternate aiport in case of an engine failure is more than 60 minutes of flying time. Individual airline approval can be anything from 75 minutes to 207 minutes flying time on a single engine to the nearest suitable alternate airport.

 

[FutureUScapt]

PHX to Central America. Before the merger there were rumors of future plans for more cities after SJO opened.

ETOPS is helping with PHX CUN

Like others have said, ETOPS is not a factor on the route. However the fact that US East has 319s that are EOW is helping since US-West does not have any.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Purely idle speculation, but if the HP 757's were not EOW equipped prior to the ETOPS certification it would explain how ETOPS is helping on the PHX-CUN route.

Jim

 

[UPNAWAY]

And a tail # has nothing to do with an ETOPS aircraft, where is your proof that this is going to occur?
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I do belive the plan is to have a grouping of numbers that are for Etops reguardless of fleet.

 

[soc-hpjester]

Yes, ETOPS helps on the PHX-CUN route alot. Before the 757 etops a/c's were put on the route non etops cert. airbuses were doing it adding an addl. 90 min of block on the round trip.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Yes, ETOPS helps on the PHX-CUN route alot. Before the 757 etops a/c's were put on the route non etops cert. airbuses were doing it adding an addl. 90 min of block on the round trip.

Yep, I did a trip on both the 319 and the 757 on the return, a big difference in time and a much more direct route (according to my handheld GPS)

 

[ClueByFour]

Yep, I did a trip on both the 319 and the 757 on the return, a big difference in time and a much more direct route (according to my handheld GPS)

Interesting, since HP does not allow GPS usage in flight.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Interesting, since HP does not allow GPS usage in flight.

Interesting, since I asked the pilot if it was OK before the flight and was allowed to use it.

 

[DHG750R]

If you look PrivatAir:

PrivatAir's two German registered Airbus A319 LR aircraft are configured with 48 identical leather seats in a single cabin, and are ideal for carrying business class passengers in outstanding comfort. They are equipped with individual in-flight entertainment, avionics and safety systems to meet the most stringent requirements of the modern traveler. With a range of over 4'000 nautical miles, they can fly non-stop for up to 9½ hours, putting most transatlantic destinations within easy reach of Europe.

They currently fly ORD and EWR to Dusselfdorf for LH and EWR to MUC.

While that is true . The PrivitAir aircraft are A319LR's have aux tanks to reach 4000nm. US's A319's range will not approach that with any sort of payload.

 

[Diamondbacks2004]

Wow, I can't believe former US Airways Airbus A319-112 reg N707UW (cn 949) went to Honolulu in one time last October 30, 2005. (Not ETOPS certified).

N707UW (cn 949) Sitting on the South Ramp at HNL on its delivery flight to Indonesia. My first time seeing an A319 at HNL! HNL does not get many Airbus visitors, besides the scheduled PR, CI, and BR services. The US Airways titles seem like they were hastily removed, one can clearly see the fading white titles, not to mention the unique "black top" livery!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0995161/M/

Other airline operators by Airbus 320 series went to HNL:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=92789

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=92789

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0878924/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0538603/M/