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just wondering if the cleaners and baggage handlers are considered skilled or unskilled labor
 
deltawatch said:
"The reality is that the industry has changed, and people are no longer making what they made two, five or 10 years ago," Castelveter said. "What an employee has to decide is whether the airline business is right for them, and if the answer is no, then they have a personal decision to make."

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That reality didn't stop Siegel or Mr. C from reaping or I mean RAPING millions while "demanding" major give back to lowly workers.

It doesn't stop top executives including what Lakefield called, "nothing" referring to his four hundred thousand a year salary.

They expect people to work for $7 an hour while they live as kings and if you don't like it, then quit. They use that crap under the guise, things have changed. Yes things have changed, EXCEPT their own personal and very high wages.

The fly child’s on this board who play into their conniving deceptive ways calling it reality are in fact "creating" that reality for themselves by being fools used by the Glasses of this world.

LUV, look to LUV and what employees there earn and ask, what's wrong!

Don’t be fools, don’t swallow the lies, least you chock to death.
 
passed_over said:
just wondering if the cleaners and baggage handlers are considered skilled or unskilled labor
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You can't consider ANYONE in this companies Mangement to be Skilled labor either.
Remember that not everone wants to bust their back in a Bin or work outside in the cold WX for $7 an hour. When a job at Home Depot starts close to the top rate they want us to earn, someting is wrong. There are a lot of jobs that are not Classified as Skilled labor, but they pay a decent wage. You can bet that Mr. Castelveter is not speaking about his paycheck in this statement. Upper Management thinks they are still worth top Dollar for doing a lousey job, while they want to cut everone else to poverty wages. Get Castelveter to work for $12 an hour and see what he has to say then.....if he is still around that is.
 
The fly child’s on this board who play into their conniving deceptive ways calling it reality are in fact "creating" that reality for themselves by being fools used by the Glasses of this world.
Yeah right..., each legacies' version of Jerry Glass decided to bring their carrier near bankruptcy (or to the brink of extinction) just so they could wrangle cost reductions from the workforce... Wow, we are such fools to be taken in by thier scheme.🙄

Sorry to break it to you, but there is more to this situation than your own self centered worries about a reduced paycheck or feelings of entitlement. The fact is, unlike in the past, that with the exception of international flying, low cost carriers are selling the same product, in exactly the same markets as the legacies, and continue to further do so.

That means we can no longer base our assumptions of what we "should make" only to remain competitive with other legacies (who more or less share our own situation). We cannot even base it upon what they make at LUV. It is competitive suicide to do so.

Your ego might fool you into thinking that enough of a difference still exists to demand the traditional revenue premium (that allowed your high pay to exist). Your shortsightedness might blind you into thinking that certain market "strongholds" are still immune to the pricing effects of the low cost carriers (they are not). But that is because you are so fixed upon your paycheck, and not the overall market strength or survival of the company (that provides it) that you decieve yourself with misconceptions.


Take for Example:
LUV, look to LUV and what employees there earn and ask, what's wrong!
You mean the LUV employees that have only recently (under a decade) been able to achieve the pay and work rules that the legacy unions have enjoyed for so long...?

You mean the LUV that has been on a constant growth cycle, bringing in new hires, while our own company has been forced to downsize + retreat from competitive disadvantages...?

Leaving only the most senior, and those obviously with highest longevity in terms of pay/benefits at US Airways.

Two payscales can be the same, but if you at 20 years, and I am at three yr. pay, then it is a no brainer to figure who is making the higher wages...

But hey, why let the real world intrude upon your sense of persecution...? It sounds better to just look at the numbers on paper, and tell yourself that you "deserve" to at least make what our competitor LUV pays, right...?

Take a look at PHL, one of our former "strongholds". Other than a handful of internal transfers, the majority of the SWA workforce in Philly is brand new, working for far less than the far more senior US Airways employees. They are doing the same jobs, for far less. selling the same product, for a lower cost.

It has nothing to do with age discrimination or corporate tricks. It is just a simple example that LUV has once again established a lower overhead while competing DIRECTLY with our own operation (in what used to be a "fortress" hub).

That sort of thing is what is driving this situation, and that is what we have to overcome

So put your attitude aside and realize that there is more to all of this than your own paycheck and dislike for Jerry Glass. I am sorry that we are in the situation we are in (rather than being on the offensive like LUV). But it is still a better situation that those at Eastern, Pan Am, TWA have had, right...?

Those "Old School" legacies did not, or could not adapt against the competitive challenges of UAL, AAL, DAL, and yes, USAir. And now they are gone. Yet now it our turn to adapt to our own competitive situation and succeed, or we too will cease to exist.

Blame anyone and everyone, but that will get you nowhere. A lower cost structure is needed to survive and succeed. And until we can regain some of the liquidity advantages that LUV still enjoys (better financing terms, lower debt, and fuel hedging), then that difference has to be made up somewhere. Lower labor costs is one of the only options left to the company.

But you have options as well. If the sacrifice is too great, if alternatives exist that would be more worthwhile to you, or if you just plain cannot handle the situation any longer... Then stop placing blame on others, and take your future into your own hands and leave. Otherwise cowboy up, stop whining, and do whatever you can to keep this place alive.

At least you still have that option to decide your own fate, the former employees of EAL, Pan Am, and TWA had that decision made for them long ago...
 
Rico

Instead of addressing your individual points:


I have a brother-in-law who has his own business and I wished I would have recorded his words when I called his company yesterday expecting to speak with my sister but instead, he answered. You see he is mental and coupled with the mental illness is a thought process that the right wing whacks that run our government would be pound of. According to him, his employees are no damn good, and real pain in the a-z-z not worth their salt, a necessary evil. I am not exaggerating in the least because his words were filled with vulgar rage and vile contempt for the employees who make him rich, and he is rich.

He is not unique which is what is scary in corporate America, this I KNOW. There are many that feel if you don’t own your own business but instead choose to earn a wage to survive, well then you are from the bowels of the earth, lazy and no damn good because you don’t want to work 120 hours a week making money your God.

Then we have people like the ones who are in charge of U on TV with smiling faces at the same time implementing every imaginable fantasy they can conjure up to take from employees because to them, like my brother-in-law, employees are dirt and are to be used and disposed of when finished with.

We can go back and forth all day long on why this is true and debating the reasons why men treat other men of less money and influence like beasts of burden and use them up. I will just use one word here for this. “Depravity†which is the human condition, until one chooses to rectify that fact in their personal life anyway.

U’s management team is so bad that instead of reaching out and trying to work with its employees, they are asking employees to just quit if they don’t want to fall in lock step with their insane demands. They realize that many employees are scared, afraid and have no self worth and actually believe they must submit to any insane demands made upon them, so they do their dirty filthy work with help from your kind. These people are YOU and people like you, one of the management disciples and just like in CS Lewis’s book, “The Screw Tape Letters†a devil assigned certain employees to make sure they don’t rebel, don’t speak out, but just submit, or go away and die.

Rico, you and this management team make me ill. I can’t stand your type who would twist, distort and exploit employees for your own person gain. I know what you are and I post so others can too.
 
Curt, Sorry you are no longer employed by USAirways. Does your current employer have an Employee Assistance Program? If so, I think you should avail yourself of their help ASAP.
 
Yeah, whatever Deano (and the like).


If an aircraft engine catches fire in flight, I deal with it.

I fly the plane, shut the engine down, and work with my crew to get the plane and passneegers safely to the ground.

I do not sit there wasting time with "blame", or cryng about how "unfair" the situation is. I just deal with it.

I do my job. The job I was hired to do, trained to do, and expected to do.

Why should this crisis be any different...?

This company's financial "engine" is on fire, so it is all of our jobs to DEAL with it. We must rely upon our fellow "crewmembers" (management/unions) to also do, what needs to be done to deal with the crisis. Getting all emotional, or doing anything to make the situation worse is unacceptable from any of us.

So pardon me if I put more faith in the promise of transformation, rather than the continuation of the status quo that helped put us in this situation just as much as any management mistakes of the past.

Pardon me if I look at this in a different manner than you, but I have not and will not "give up" on this place unitl the bitter end. .. Because my agenda is clear, I, and IMO everyone is better of if US Airways survives.

Because any landing you can walk away from is a good one (and any job you can save is still worth saving, if not for yourself, then the others that do count on it). And unless your sappy crybabies get with the program, no one is going to be able to walk away from the "hard landing" this company will have if we fail.

So contribute or get out of the way. We have a company to save. You can cry all you want later on, trust me.
 
"Castelveter was not aware of any mandatory overtime policy and said employee incentive programs and periodic reminders about the importance of good attendance during the holidays are not unusual."

Castelveter is a liar or a dumbass. Anyone who believes what he says is one or the other.
 
Dog Wonder said:
"Castelveter was not aware of any mandatory overtime policy

I think if you speak with any customer service agent the term being "frozen" equates to mandatory overtime.........what else would you call the senerio of at the end of a 4.5 or 8.5 hour shift you get a call from a supervisor stating you had to stay????
 
Smartest Loser said:
He wouldn't be talking about his own salary would he..??
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"Ahhh... you are too smart to work here. You must be assimilated or driven out. Have you not yet heard? We are all equal. It is just that we mgt are more equal than you. Change your understanding or we will have to deal with you..."
 

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