Edward
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Folks we are starting to drift on the topic. Lets get back. Thanks.
CLT-HNL on the chopping block?
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Well, that's not exactly correct. From 08SEP10-28NOV10, the flight is loaded as X123. It is then suspended for the lull in between Thanksgiving and X-mas and returns to daily service on 16DEC10.
That being said, I would expect that we'll see some changes between now and then. <_<
Furloughd4now
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Why is it that they started it as year-round daily service? Wouldn't it be wiser to do several days a week and see how demand goes? But then they would have to have the crew there on a longer RON, god forbid the crew gets to have any fun :unsure: 🙄
I could easily see CLT-HNL become seasonal after this next winter. It would allow for them to do CLT-MAD seasonally in the summer
The problem with CLT- Mad is the Route is not the greatest performer out of Philly, so why add more seats into a weak market. The rumor mill in Philly is wispering about a secind TLV flight- that might be a new route from Charlotte since it has been very sucessful out of philly and is very profitable. The Hnl flight should be scrapped as US doesnt have aircraft suitable(at least they choose not to use one such as a 330-200) for a long thin route like Clt- Hnl. Please fellow Clt boosters dont bite my head off on that one its the truth.
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PHL-MAD Not a Performer>? Sorry but I would like to know where you get your information? I had heard last year, before the trans cutback, that US was looking at a second PHL-MAD..
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Good luck with that. During the slow season Kona and Kauai flights go from daily to 4 times a week out of PHX. Back in the day that would result in awesome 52 hour layovers for those crews. These days we work it one direction and then deadhead the other via HNL on Hawaiian Airlines. Because of the additional travel time these layovers are even shorter than our normal 32 hour Hawaiis (more like 24 hours due to the additional travel time). Not much time for fun considering you have to sleep twice. I can't see how it can be much of a money saver but guess it is. You know, they'll do anything to squeeze out another nickel around here.
And what do you base that opinion on ??
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The likely reason PHL-TLV flights (and others) are so successful is because of the PHL O&D, which in the case of TLV includes huge jewish business and family travel from NJ - not connecting traffic. That same criteria would not likely be available from CLT. My impression is that US's stategy is to use CLT as an international "reliever" for PHL (e.g., CLT-FCO, CLT-CDG) and to route more and more connecting traffic through there. One reason CLT can support its 70+% connecting traffic and still produce acceptable Yields is because it's the least expensive (by far) major airport in the country. IMO, CLT-HNL was a mistake from the beginning. It's classicly a Low Yielding, difficult profit market even with the proper aircraft and acceptable O&D - like NYC. Maybe use the 767 on another potentially acceptable profit route such as a 2nd PHL-MAD, PHL-WAW (Seasonal) or another CLT route.
Looks like the winter inventory is zeroed out as well - so this flight looks like it is gone for good. I guess the question is where will they fly the aircraft to next.?perhaps if the economic climate is better they will add another new flight to europe or reinstate a suspended city such as MXP.
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We need to flight for another two slots at LHR so we can trasfer CLT-LGW to LHR and add a second PHL-LHR flight. Also the new airport in Berlin,BBI, will be ready next year I believe. Service to Berlin, the capital of Germany and its largest city is long overdue!
Dog Wonder
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Maybe if the Hawaiians would change the name of a luau to a pig pickin' the originating traffic would improve.
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