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La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Although MSM represent about 4% of the male population in the United States, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of new HIV infections among males and 63% of all new infections.
 
Do what? Account for over half the infections with just 4 percent of the population? No, they sure don't.
 
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Taking a count using hard numbers and coming up with a number using sampling are not the same thing Glenn, no matter how much you might want them to be.
 
Did you notice the word "about" in the first quote?  They did not count every single instance.  These are not 'hard' numbers (what ever that means.  Didn't you just accuse me of reinventing words? 
 
Ms Tree said:
Did you notice the word "about" in the first quote?  They did not count every single instance.  These are not 'hard' numbers (what ever that means.  Didn't you just accuse me of reinventing words? 
No kidding the 4 percent is not accurate....... I believe I already touched on that when I said the number magically went up 3 percent since the first post.
 
78% and 63% ARE real numbers.  Those numbers have been counted and documented. They are not sampled but actually counted and reported to the CDC who compiles the information.
 
Did I really have to spell that out for you?
 
You can not possibly be that stupid..........
 
At any rate you should not waste your time debating with me. First off, I have no interest in what you say so it is wasted time. Second, after the Alliance/AMFA vote I am retiring from this Forum anyway. I made up my mind months ago that once the vote goes through I am leaving after the results are posted. I came here to help in any way I can to oust the corrupt TWU. I never made it a secret that that was my primary objective. Hopefully the mechanics have gotten a bit smarter and will send them packing. If not... well, I am not wasting any more energy for a group of people that are suffering from "battered wife syndrome". You can't help someone that does not want to help themselves.
 
After the vote my "mission" is over. 
 
I am sure most in this libtard infested cesspool will be glad to see me go. 
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
No kidding the 4 percent is not accurate....... I believe I already touched on that when I said the number magically went up 3 percent since the first post.
 
78% and 63% ARE real numbers.  Those numbers have been counted and documented. They are not sampled but actually counted and reported to the CDC who compiles the information.
 
Did I really have to spell that out for you?
 
You can not possibly be that stupid..........
 
 
From your link.  Emphasis added.
CDC published new incidence estimates in December 2012 in the CDC HIV Surveillance Supplemental Report series. These estimates use the Stratified Extrapolation Approach to extrapolate (to the rest of the United States) from areas contributing national data for HIV incidence estimates. For 2007-2010, this includes 18 states and 2 cities which comprised 24 of the 25 areas funded for HIV incidence surveillance. The Stratified Extrapolation Approach applies the ratio of the estimated incidence of HIV infection to the estimated number of diagnoses of HIV infection in a given year within the areas that did contribute data for incidence estimation to the estimated number of diagnoses of HIV infection in the areas that did not contribute data.
 
 
 
Welcome to statistics.  I guess now you don't believe in them or may be they do because they support your POV.
 
No but you obviously can be.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
At any rate you should not waste your time debating with me. First off, I have no interest in what you say so it is wasted time. Second, after the Alliance/AMFA vote I am retiring from this Forum anyway. I made up my mind months ago that once the vote goes through I am leaving after the results are posted. I came here to help in any way I can to oust the corrupt TWU. I never made it a secret that that was my primary objective. Hopefully the mechanics have gotten a bit smarter and will send them packing. If not... well, I am not wasting any more energy for a group of people that are suffering from "battered wife syndrome". You can't help someone that does not want to help themselves.
 
After the vote my "mission" is over. 
 
I am sure most in this libtard infested cesspool will be glad to see me go. 
Counting down that days.  It's hard work keeping up with your ignorance. 
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
At any rate you should not waste your time debating with me. First off, I have no interest in what you say so it is wasted time. Second, after the Alliance/AMFA vote I am retiring from this Forum anyway. I made up my mind months ago that once the vote goes through I am leaving after the results are posted. I came here to help in any way I can to oust the corrupt TWU. I never made it a secret that that was my primary objective. Hopefully the mechanics have gotten a bit smarter and will send them packing. If not... well, I am not wasting any more energy for a group of people that are suffering from "battered wife syndrome". You can't help someone that does not want to help themselves.
 
After the vote my "mission" is over. 
 
I am sure most in this libtard infested cesspool will be glad to see me go.

Yay, I can't wait!
 
In light of the whole topic, I think Sam proved that there are more gay players than one would think. Hell, I remember watching many of the alleged hetero-testosterone driven football players, patting each other on the @$$. I often scratched my head on that one.

In one game every player lined up to touch it after he scored a TD.
 
delldude said:
Mikey isn't a happy camper.
 
 
I believe the reality is in the level of talent in the NFL and his not quite to that level, gay or not.
He isn't the first highly talented athlete to get ever cut.
Might be his high protein diet... 😛
 
Local kid here and friends brother was big man on campus track and field.....real good high jumper. Met Carl Lewis, special trips for exposure. National level he was a pimple, became a team manager. That's the level of talent in some areas.
 

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