Depends what single leg you are talking about, Right Mikey? I know what a twisted comment from such a jr F/A who has know idea what he is talking about. BTW...When was the last domestic sequence you have flown? Don't you have some books that you need to be reading for that new career you are so desperately trying to get into?
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I don't think anyone that has flown domestic and international would disagree that domestic is much more physically challenging...ie harder. Many of the international rules were put into place when over water was more dangerous, languages were required and planes were slower. I used to get flack from some f/as on the ANC-STL flight because I wouldn't schedule crew "rest". Yes, it left at midnight but this was after a 27 hour layover and it was one leg to STL. AND, it wasn't contractual. We also had some long 2 leg turns (all nighters) that knocked your socks off BUT the tradeoff was 10 days on the property, max. And our most senior trip was LAX-IAD-LAX, a 10 hour turn. On the property 8 days, max. No crew rest and everyone was fine. I think legs per day should be limited. That is more important than flt time. Ed, you are passionate about the changes you want to see. Run for office. It is your responsibility as a union member, (and I think a whole lot of fun).
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Again I say look at a domestic bid sheet especially those out of DFW, STL and ORD...I think you will see many legs that exceed 8 hours, especially turns. DFW-SEA. ( You are correct its not a single leg, but the duty days match or in some cases exceed those of international ) Not to mention, duty days scheduled over 12 hrs and 3-4 legs a day on a S-80..I personally like flying them because they are high time , but crew rest is non-existent especially on the 80. STL-SAN-DFW-STL is another one I can think of.
International flying is different. Yes equally as hard but i can tell you if you have a leg over 8 hours you get bunk beds, crew rest, more money,and in a lot of cases, layovers over 12 hours. Not to mention, fewer legs, and larger a/c. It's why you see the international proffers going so senior right now. Who can blame them?
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I would love to run for office one day, but I have come to learn the APFA is too politically involved with themseslves and the company..I can't actually put myself in the position to run for a union which I so despise. They call themselves a union, but reality seems to dictate otherwise...The way they have treated the "so called" junior F/A including those at TWA is outrageous. Not to mention, the memebership wouldn't even consider putting someone in an office ( in my estimation ) with less than 15 years seniority.
Exactly the point there are no single legs in excess of 8 hours. Its also domestic, or international caribbean no FA's I have seen are working so hard as to need a rest. Flying time under three hours and you make one trip down the aisle, OH the horror,the aches and pains it must bring.
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We do not fly that. If we ever did, it would be an international leg.
ORD-HNL is a LONG flight. It's longer than most TATL flights and the passengers don't even get a free meal or a pillow and blanket.
Most passengers are also on award tickets, which has as much to do with what you posted, as your response to my posting. Just not sure what a pillow and blanket has to do with single domestic legs exceeding 8 hours of flying time?
You did fly it. TWA flew it non stop for a number of years. TWA is now part of AA, whether you want to admit it or not. That is JFK to HNL>
Having to do with crewrest on domestic, here and now, not the longest flight ever. The point is domestic and international caribbean have some times long days, but crew rest and sleeping on it is limited to single legs over 8 hours.
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That's like saying at the time AA bought TWA effective 4/10/01, if a TWA employee had 30 years, he now has 37 years AA seniority.....
NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We flew STL-HNL and LA-HNL...Both were considered Intn'
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Reported to moderator. Just so you know who called you out. Your style is mind-numbing and obviously deliberate as you are careful to use different one character to fool the filters. If only you cut down on the puncuation your stuff might be easier to digest.
We're all going to the cornfield tonight anyway. May your trip be an extended-stay.
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