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On 4/12/2003 3:09:10 PM FWAAA wrote:
Yes, it''s all management''s fault. No way it''s anybody else''s fault.
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They were the only ones with a gun in the so called negotiations room.
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On 4/12/2003 3:09:10 PM FWAAA wrote:
No way could each union have put together a package of proposals eight weeks ago (about two weeks after it knew the number that AA demanded of each work group).
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We did have a package drawn up by our team priced by AA''s numbers during the f/a''s negotiations as well as by our analysts. It totaled 340 million. AA never intended fair negotiation in the process. They threatened BK time and time again until all three had relented and taken Hits in excess of the asked for amounts. The unions have an obligation to bring it to the membership for ratification or rejection. If they had been empowered to decide on there own. This would have been settled on the 1st in BK court.
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On 4/12/2003 3:09:10 PM FWAAA wrote:
That would have represented true leadership. Instead, constant whining is the order of the day.
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You call it whining. But right now all we have is our mouths and fingers to share information on how AA has no desire operate or negotiate fairly. How AA seems to want agreements signed prior to BK. So any further negotiations would be from the current cuts, not from current pay scales.
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On 4/12/2003 3:09:10 PM FWAAA wrote:
We have certainly learned that AA''s union leaders possess no real leadership skills - why bother, when management can be blamed.
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There is true leadership in trying to avoid BK. In spite of the ugly, dirty things AA did in negotiations and the disgusting things they are doing now in changing agreed to language in to something that wasn''t. It took leaders to bring this filth to the membership for a vote.
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On 4/12/2003 3:09:10 PM FWAAA wrote:
All represented employees should keep this in mind when asking other carriers for jobs after AA''s eventual liquidation (which I sadly predict will occur prior to 2004).
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We see this from two different sides. I have to work under this kind of garbage. If AA makes it or not. They had a 60,000 union employees who were willing to make it work. Unfortunately. AA has an agenda and a plan that does require my input. So if the day you think AA will liquidate comes. I plan to be ready. Who knows I likely wouldn''t survive a second round layoff. Then I wont have to worry. I hope to be able to leave prior to having to hate coming to work. That would be the saddest thing for me.
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On 4/12/2003 3:09:10 PM FWAAA wrote:
But better to be the last hired at some other carrier than to have shown any leadership at AA. After all, AA management had it coming. It''s all their fault.
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In so many words, your correct. Its a shame to see it come to this, when the employees stood up and came to the table to offer cuts. Only to have a shaft handed to them to take back to the membership.