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Well, DL officially filed for bankruptcy just moments ago. Do you think their filing will help boost bookings for US in the next few months? Could this help US/AWA through the lean months?



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MarkMyWords said:
Well, DL officially filed for bankruptcy just moments ago. Do you think their filing will help boost bookings for US in the next few months? What if NW files too? Could this help US/AWA through the lean months?
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I doubt it - it just means that there will be two more airlines not paying all their bills that will be desperate for cash in the lean months and will discount their tix to whatever it takes to get people to buy them - making the recovery for US/HP that much more difficult.

It's gonna be a cold, dark winter.
 
Delta is pretty much non-union. I wonder what the 'unions are killing us' people have to say.
 
It could be one of those "glass half full - glass half empty" things.

I've seen some media stories that say DAL will pull down 15% of their domestic capacity. That can't hurt and may help US/AWA.

On the other hand, and as has been said, they may (repeat may) start selling low-priced tickets. If they do, that would hurt.

Jim
 
Let's keep perspective here. Remember when US first filed Chap. 11 how $hitty we all felt. I wish the employees at DAL and NWA the best; no worker bee deserves this crap!
 
i wish the best for the DL employees. This is going to be a tough time for your company. Hope that it goes better than it did for our labor group. Just pray that they don't hire jerry glass as he will be unemployed in a few weeks.
 
Delta Air, Northwest file for Chapter 11
Wednesday September 14, 5:15 pm ET
By Christian Plumb and Jui Chakravorty


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines Inc. (NYSE😀AL - News) and Northwest Airlines Corp.(NasdaqNM:NWAC - News) filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Wednesday, according to court documents.
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Delta, the No. 3 U.S. airline, which earlier this year said it did not have enough cash to meet its liquidity needs in 2005, filed for protection in U.S. bankruptcy court in the Southern District of New York.

"The action we have taken is a necessary and responsible step to preserve Delta's value for our creditors, customers, employees, business partners and other stakeholders," said Delta Chief Executive Gerald Grinstein in a release. "Delta is open for business as usual and will continue normal operations throughout the reorganization process."

Minnesota-based Northwest, whose mechanics have been on strike since August 20, filed for Chapter 11 protection in the U.S. Bankruptcy court in Manhattan.

The two filings doubled to four the number of major U.S. airlines operating under court protection, dramatizing the industry's struggle with soaring oil and competition from low-cost carriers.

The sector's woes went from bad to worse this month as refinery outages caused by Hurricane Katrina sent jet fuel prices spiking. U.S. airlines are expected to post some $10 billion in losses this year.

Atlanta-based Delta's woes were compounded by a crushing debt load of more than $20 billion and one of the industry's biggest underfunded pension burdens.

Founded in 1928, Delta became a top international player by taking over many routes from defunct Pan Am in 1991. It has faced an uphill battle to recovery after getting hammered by the September 11, 2001, attacks and the slowdown in flying that followed.

"Delta is overleveraged and they weren't going to stay out of bankruptcy, no way," said Ray Neidl, an analyst at Calyon Securities.

Both airlines would likely use bankruptcy to slash labor and pension costs, following in the footsteps of No. 2 U.S. carrier United Airlines, the main unit of UAL Corp.

(OTC BB:UALAQ.OB - News).

The bankruptcies could put added pressure on other carriers including AMR Corp. (NYSE:AMR - News), parent of American Airlines, by putting them at a competitive disadvantage as their bankrupt rivals shed costs and ditch pensions, analysts said.

On the other hand, other airlines would benefit if Delta and others cut back on domestic routes, getting rid of overcapacity which has made the U.S. airline sector the most troubled worldwide.

Credit rating firm Standard & Poor's said on Wednesday that Northwest's failure to make $42 million in payments due on Tuesday made a bankruptcy filing likely.

Adding to pressure on the Eagan, Minnesota-based carrier, Northwest would face a lien against its assets if it missed a $65 million pension payment due on Thursday, S&P said -- unless the airline sought court protection.

United and US Airways Group Inc. (OTC BB:UAIRQ.OB - News) are both already operating in bankruptcy, though both are hoping to emerge soon.

Additional bankruptcy filings could pave the way for additional mergers and acquisitions in the sector, Merrill Lynch & Co. analyst Michael Linenberg said in a report.

On Wednesday, Delta shares closed down 7 cents, or 9 percent, at 71 cents on the New York Stock Exchange. Northwest shares, which were hammered Tuesday on expectation of a bankruptcy filing, closed up 30 cents, or 19.1 percent, to $1.87 in busy trading on Nasdaq.

Northwest's stock has plunged 86 percent so far this year, while Delta has lost 90 percent of its value.

On the debt markets, Northwest's 10 percent notes due in 2009 rose to 26 cents on the dollar, about 2-1/2 cents higher on the day, after tumbling more than 9 cents on Tuesday, according to MarketAxess.

Delta's 8.3 percent bonds due 2029 rose to 16 cents on the dollar, about 0.5 cent higher on the day, according to MarketAxess. They are still about 3/4-cent lower month-to-date.

(Additional reporting by Dena Aubin)
 
I think DL will have a long and difficult transition during Chapter 11. They waited too long to file. Personally I think they played corporate chess with the "certain" demise of US. That strategy backfired and they got caught on the bad side of a corporate gamble. Unfortunately we can relate to bad decision making and we are acutely aware that the customer and the employee base suffers.

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why feel bad for them??? Its called bankruptcy PROTECTION. BK is not a bad thing.. its a good thing.. they get to kill their pensions off and become more competitive.. Delta's is a pre packaged BK...
 
Airline execs sure know how to demoralize their employees. " and one of the industry's biggest underfunded pension burdens."
Of course the execs. know how to take care of themselves. Bail out with a golden parachute.
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"Bankruptcy is just another tool available to corporations"- Dave Seigel
 
Maybe Delta or NorthWest can get Frank Lorenzo to help out. :eye:
Don't know till you ask!!
 
"Chapter 11 protection will allow Delta to pursue wage cuts for its 65,000-plus full-time employees, as well as pension and health benefits for workers and retirees, that would have been more difficult or impossible without protected status."


The real losers are the line employees... ahahahahahhaahah they get the shaft, and they just keep taking it.. if labor had any balls they would go on strike.. but none did.... Mgmt wears the pants, and unions dont mean a thing...
 
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