Delta Cutting Int'l Capacity By 10%

[BABABOOY]

I wonder what the International capacity cuts are like at the other airlines?

I believe United announcend 15%
here is a story:
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/trav...+temp_companies

 

[Dignity]

I believe United announcend 15%
here is a story:

Thanks BB that was an interesting read..

paying particular attention to AMR and their 2.5 percent International capacity cut as opposed to the much more significant 15 percent UAL cuts and of course the DAL ones as well..

which makes me wonder why American's a little less than 3 percent...they have a strong Latin America network and of course Europe but not so much Asia, I wonder if they are experiencing better than expected Latin America bookings with the 2.5 reductions..seems minimal when compared to other International capacity reductions..

maybe Latin America is a needed focus at this time?

 

[BABABOOY]

maybe Latin America is a needed focus at this time?

Interesting that you mention that. In the investor conference call Delta
stated percentages decline for both Pacific(14)/Atlantic.(13) and also stated
that Latin routes looked good and will grow.
From BTNonline:
To achieve those cuts, the carrier plans exit "low-performing markets, down-gauge certain routes, adjust frequencies and move some markets to seasonal service." The memo did not detail the specific markets that will witness cuts. The carrier said capacity to Latin America should be up "slightly in the fourth quarter."


Good Article:
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstravelnew...t_id=1003949708

 

[jimntx]

which makes me wonder why American's a little less than 3 percent...they have a strong Latin America network and of course Europe but not so much Asia, I wonder if they are experiencing better than expected Latin America bookings with the 2.5 reductions..seems minimal when compared to other International capacity reductions..

I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the actual reductions may be less than stated at AA. I think some of the counted reductions are seasonal flights that were going away anyway at the end of the Summer--such as the 3rd daily DFW-LHR flight. That is strictly a summer travel season flight. Also, they are expanding in some areas of International; so, the net reduction is smaller than expected.

 

[FWAAA]

which makes me wonder why American's a little less than 3 percent...they have a strong Latin America network and of course Europe but not so much Asia, I wonder if they are experiencing better than expected Latin America bookings with the 2.5 reductions..seems minimal when compared to other International capacity reductions.

Part of it might be because AA didn't add an awful lot of international capacity in the past few years the way DL did - with the exception of more NRT service, AA's international flying looks a lot like it has for the last 20 years or so. Some of the destinations have changed (China and India replaced a bunch of European cities to which AA no longer flies) but overall, AA did not add all that many ASMs the way DL did. And I agree that Latin America still looks strong.

UA has to be hurting from its larger exposure to Asia and the severe contraction in passengers and cargo in that region. For the past few months, UA (and NW) have been reporting cargo volumnes down about 50% year over year.

 

[Dignity]

Part of it might be because AA didn't add an awful lot of international capacity in the past few years the way DL did - with the exception of more NRT service, AA's international flying looks a lot like it has for the last 20 years or so.

modest growth focusing on established International is probably best at this time..

Some of the destinations have changed (China and India replaced a bunch of European cities to which AA no longer flies) but overall, AA did not add all that many ASMs the way DL did. And I agree that Latin America still looks strong.

probably a good thing for DAL is simply they do have a lot of International they can shrink, especially with some of the newer markets that may not be performing the best at this time.

UA has to be hurting from its larger exposure to Asia and the severe contraction in passengers and cargo in that region. For the past few months, UA (and NW) have been reporting cargo volumnes down about 50% year over year.

Asia will still be very important in the long run, the key here is balancing through these difficult economic times...now is when teamwork, service and performance really matters, especially today..

 

[Dignity]

I think some of the counted reductions are seasonal flights that were going away anyway at the end of the Summer--such as the 3rd daily DFW-LHR flight. That is strictly a summer travel season flight.

that makes sense why the percentages are not as high as others, taking into consideration seasonal reductions..

 

[Dignity]

Interesting that you mention that. In the investor conference call Delta
stated percentages decline for both Pacific(14)/Atlantic.(13) and also stated
that Latin routes looked good and will grow.
From BTNonline:
To achieve those cuts, the carrier plans exit "low-performing markets, down-gauge certain routes, adjust frequencies and move some markets to seasonal service." The memo did not detail the specific markets that will witness cuts. The carrier said capacity to Latin America should be up "slightly in the fourth quarter."


Good Article:
http://www.btnonline.com/businesstravelnew...t_id=1003949708

fortunately with the merger and so much International reach, they can focus their attention to markets that are performing well such as Latin America.. while adjusting other markets at the same time..(having the ability to return or add additional flights as needed in the future based on demand)..

these international cuts in service still concern me..

however strictly from the Flight Attendant perspective, now is when resolution is really in order..to determine where the groups focus will be...either establishing a new contract or simply having the ability to bid and fly all routes at the successful completion of crossing training and a single SOC, enjoying the full benefits of the merger for both groups of Flight Attendants..

 

[LukeAisleWalker]

I think the majority of the cutbacks for Delta, acc. to the announcement, will start in September. That's probably when they will offer a new package and/or have involuntary furloughs.

 

[Dignity]

I think the majority of the cutbacks for Delta, acc. to the announcement, will start in September. That's probably when they will offer a new package and/or have involuntary furloughs.

well according today..at least for NW they want or should I say our SLIP leaves will begin May 1 by first offering 1 year leaves that run through April 2010...and then in 9 months...6 months...3 months..durations..

my personal opinion is simply the union should call an election prior to these folks going off line!

BTW, I like the new wings..and the eco-friendly aspect.

 

[BABABOOY]

I am sure they will offer the same to Pre-merger DL F/A's.
I may be to optimistic, however I believe there won't be any
involuntary furloughs. I think the short term leaves will be enough.
Dig, did you receive you new wings?
BTW, even on leave the F/A's can/will participate in the
vote. Whenever that is. lol

 

[Dignity]

I am sure they will offer the same to Pre-merger DL F/A's.
I may be to optimistic, however I believe there won't be any
involuntary furloughs. I think the short term leavs will be enough.

I agree, because at least for NW they are also making the SLIP available for those who
are already on leaves at this time, they have always seem to be able to secure enough people.. so I am sure this will not be an exception..

Dig, did you receive you new wings?

they are to be available at the base very soon as we go into the Richard Tyler collection end of the month, but they made a photo available, I just saw the regular Flight Attendant wings, not the Purser or LOD.

BTW, even on leave the F/A's can/will participate in the
vote. Whenever that is. lol

one thing I know that happens with some people when they go offline, they completely focus on everything other than "airline".. I hope they do participate whenever that is, and Im sure that will be the case for most as well..