Delta over values themselves

[luvthe9]

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfu...ry.asp?ID=84924

 

[brokenwrench]

"The fact of the matter is the proposal is a very labor-friendly proposal," Parker said. "Every employee will be at least as well off as they are today."

WOW! You mean both airlines employees get to stay at or near the bottom in compensation! Why would either group be against that?

While we are on this subject, how are talks going at US with ALPA and the IAM?

 

[donttouchthebeauty]

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfu...ry.asp?ID=84924

Ahhhh - I love it, Delta just needs to come to grips with reality... I am just beside myself at how much they value their arrogance. 9-12 billion, and i didn't think i would be able to quit laughing... The best part is the employees though.. They are supporting and creating attitude that they are better off alone. And for what i ask myself? So management can keep their jobs maybe for a year or so before they totally fall flat on their face.. The non union employees of Delta should embrace this because the nasty words they are spouting are pissing the girls in Philly off, and I am thinking that if it ends up happening the staple gun will be used.. ahhh the joys... I cant wait for the deltoids to come to grips with reality.. However it may be tooo late.. All of the nasty words have been said.... I am thinking as others have suggested and been talking about these last few days,,, we should make them reinterview ( like they did pan-am ) and the ones we like we keep and the ones we dont - well there is always airtran out of ATL...

 

[luv2fly]

Oh, Parker disagrees with the value. At least the title of this thread states it accurately. No big suprise.
The creditors committee has already stated it supports DL's plan. It has seen US's plan and yet the statement didn't mention supporting that plan did it? Hmmmm?
Don't worry folks. You won't be working for Delta Airlines anytime soon. That is unless of course you want to send in an application like everyone else.

 

[NYCDelta]

Ahhhh - I love it, Delta just needs to come to grips with reality... I am just beside myself at how much they value their arrogance. 9-12 billion, and i didn't think i would be able to quit laughing... The best part is the employees though.. They are supporting and creating attitude that they are better off alone. And for what i ask myself? So management can keep their jobs maybe for a year or so before they totally fall flat on their face.. The non union employees of Delta should embrace this because the nasty words they are spouting are pissing the girls in Philly off, and I am thinking that if it ends up happening the staple gun will be used.. ahhh the joys... I cant wait for the deltoids to come to grips with reality.. However it may be tooo late.. All of the nasty words have been said.... I am thinking as others have suggested and been talking about these last few days,,, we should make them reinterview ( like they did pan-am ) and the ones we like we keep and the ones we dont - well there is always airtran out of ATL...

Maybe you should worry about integrating your own contracts first.

 

[Itestwell]

It is so entertaining to sit here and read these posts, topic after topic, on both the US and DL boards. Everyone is swelled up with pride. It's similar to a weird ping pong match: USAir sucks, no DL sucks, USAir sucks, no DL sucks.......Creditors said this, NO! they said that.... It's great to feel intense pride for your respective company, but I seriously would not let it give you a heart attack. Either way, it is out of our hands. We are simply pawns in this great (albeit insane) game.... Rage on, not forgetting to breathe...... 😀

Seasons Greetings to all.....

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Oh, Parker disagrees with the value. At least the title of this thread states it accurately. No big suprise.
The creditors committee has already stated it supports DL's plan. It has seen US's plan and yet the statement didn't mention supportig that plan did it? Hmmmm?
Don't worry folks. You won't be working for Delta Airlines anytime soon. That is unless of course you want to send in an application like everyone else.

Re Read it! here is what it says:
Parker's comments came as the unsecured creditors committee in Delta's bankruptcy case, which holds a key role in deciding the carrier's fate, said Wednesday it supports Delta's decision to file its stand-alone reorganization plan, but that it also will weigh alternatives.
Lets just get what was said straight!

 

[michael707767]

"The fact of the matter is the proposal is a very labor-friendly proposal," Parker said. "Every employee will be at least as well off as they are today."

This is the biggest load of sh*t I have heard from Parker since this whole thing began.

 

[luv2fly]

Re Read it! here is what it says:
Parker's comments came as the unsecured creditors committee in Delta's bankruptcy case, which holds a key role in deciding the carrier's fate, said Wednesday it supports Delta's decision to file its stand-alone reorganization plan, but that it also will weigh alternatives.
Lets just get what was said straight!

That is exactly what I said. The unsecured creditors committee supports Delta's stand alone plan.
That is a factual statement.
The creditors committee did not say it supports US's plan. It didn't even mention US's plan. It claimed to be open to alternatives.
Hell, it could have been a message to other competing carriers that the committee will entertain bids from other airlines.
That, is exactly what I posted, and that is exactly what was said. You are the one inferring that the creditors committee was referring to US when it made the second half of their statement. If there is any speculation here, it is on your part.

 

[757inthebarrel]

Ahhhh - I love it, Delta just needs to come to grips with reality... I am just beside myself at how much they value their arrogance. 9-12 billion, and i didn't think i would be able to quit laughing...

Why is it so hard to understand why DL employees would be against this?

It will:

- Result in fewer jobs as we have almost complete route overlap.

- Increase the DL employees time in BK by a year or more when they were ready to exit.

- Create instability by adding two unmerged groups of employees to our 45000 employees.

- Add massive debt to our bottom line. Debt that was used to buy us.

- Drive more mergers with us being left in the weakest one.

- Leave a vacuum of divested routes for competitors to step into. Ready made markets.

This is just the start. Parker hasn't done anything except find the money to finance deals. All the heavy lifting at US was done before he got there as is most of restructuring work at DL. Our companies are on two totally different tracks with you adding seats, removing closets and hawking credit cards and DL trying to build an upscale product. Both are fine, they just don't mix.

The bottom line is this thing has almost no support except in AWA/US Headquarters. Creditor support is yet to be seen but there is almost no chance of it passing the regulators and it will be tied up for a year or more there. Both companies will waste valuable time and resources they could have plowed into their own business. Our competitors will be the beneficiaries.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

That is exactly what I said. The unsecured creditors committee supports Delta's stand alone plan.
That is a factual statement.
The creditors committee did not say it supports US's plan. It didn't even mention US's plan. It claimed to be open to alternatives.
Hell, it could have been a message to other competing carriers that the committee will entertain bids from other airlines.
That, is exactly what I posted, and that is exactly what was said. You are the one inferring that the creditors committee was referring to US when it made the second half of their statement. If there is any speculation here, it is on your part.

They support DL's desicion to file a stand alone plan...they did not say they support the plan itself! That is what the article said.
Parker's comments came as the unsecured creditors committee in Delta's bankruptcy case, which holds a key role in deciding the carrier's fate, said Wednesday it supports Delta's decision to file its stand-alone reorganization plan, but that it also will weigh alternatives.
Lets just get what was said straight!

 

[luv2fly]

They support DL's desicion to file a stand alone plan...they did not say they support the plan itself!

OK the creditors committee made a statement to make a statement that they supported DL's decision to file a stand alone plan. Good grief.
I suppose we should now specify that the committee did not make a statement supporting US's decision to propose a merge(plan).

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

OK the creditors committee made a statement to make a statement that they supported DL's decision to file a stand alone plan. Good grief.
I suppose we should now specify that the committee did not make a statement supporting US's decision to propose a merge(plan).

Spin it how you want to spin it...that is what they said!

 

[RowUnderDCA]

There's a 33% chance that luv2fly is just spinning as best he can; a 33% chance that he's just baiting you; and a 33% chance that he's really stupid. or some combination.

 

[BottomFeeder]

OK the creditors committee made a statement to make a statement that they supported DL's decision to file a stand alone plan. Good grief.
I suppose we should now specify that the committee did not make a statement supporting US's decision to propose a merge(plan).

Just the facts would be refreshing