Delta pilots to conduct ‘practice strike’

[luv2fly]

Yes I did and no I didn't have any sincerity. If pilots are so wise to the ways as we are always told, why do they have to "practice" striking? Call it what it is and that is a public service announcement to try to get people to book away from your own company and put pressure on mgmt to seek concessions that are less-than-adequate to ensure long term survival. It is atrocious to me that the motives of some of the group are now bordering on sabotage. Kind of tells me that there is no interest in long-term survival for the company among those (hopefully "few") that are trying to persuade the public that we are too instable to count on for future reservations.

Thanks so much (insincere again) for supporting the sabotage of our future revenue.

-Chapter 12

Fine, it was a public announcement. More like a management wake up call if you will. Take note of what you saw. It may happen for real in a few weeks.
I spent the last few days flying. Eight legs and not one with less than an 85% load factor. They are leaving by the droves aren't they???
Hardly "sabotage". You have a flair for inflating the truth don't you?

 

[MMB]

I don't see either in this sabotage.

Sabotage? Or extortion: the acquiring of anything through the use of force or threats.

MB

 

[WNrforlife]

I am just embarressed for this whole company. The management mistakes over the years, pilots and management in the news every year over concessions and then pointing the finger at each other and the typical F/A's gripes, and now a "practice" strike? We have hit a new low. :down:

Delta Pilots intentionally sinking their own company out of spite! That's quite funny-

Delta - the official laughing stock of the airline industry!

 

[luv2fly]

Delta - the official laughing stock of the airline industry!

No, that would be you my ignorant friend.

 

[WNrforlife]

No, that would be you my ignorant friend.

No, Delta is the "Official Laughing Stock of the Airline Industry". Their motto- "Our own pilots drive business to other carriers"

 

[john john]

Management will get the concessions and major changes they need to exit bankruptcy for its financiers one-way or another they have a $ target to achieve. DALPA will negotiate and fight in court every gain DALPA receives the other employee groups loses. Management will take care of management with retention bonuses again the other employee groups will get leftovers. The target $ has to be achieved to exit bankruptcy. Plan of Reorganization is being put into place

 

[luv2fly]

No, Delta is the "Official Laughing Stock of the Airline Industry". Their motto- "Our own pilots drive business to other carriers"

How creative you are.

 

[WNrforlife]

The suicide rate in the Atlanta area went up after maintenance employees at Eastern went on strike and put the airline out of business.

I wonder if the same thing will happen after the Delta pilots strike and force their company out of business.
🙁

 

[luv2fly]

The suicide rate in the Atlanta area went up after maintenance employees at Eastern went on strike and put the airline out of business.

I wonder if the same thing will happen after the Delta pilots strike and force their company out of business.
🙁

Seriously, would you mind posting how much and exactly when it went up?

 

[Ch. 12]

Seriously, would you mind posting how much and exactly when it went up?

I think that the one thing that you and I agree on 100% is that WNforlife has proven to be a horrible excuse for a human.

WNforlife- Go lurk in a dark alley somewhere. You bring nothing intelligent here. While some of us have spoken strongly about our points of view, you have made pretty lousy remarks about what you "hope" will happen and there isn't any room here for that.

 

[WNrforlife]

I think that the one thing that you and I agree on 100% is that WNforlife has proven to be a horrible excuse for a human.

WNforlife- Go lurk in a dark alley somewhere. You bring nothing intelligent here. While some of us have spoken strongly about our points of view, you have made pretty lousy remarks about what you "hope" will happen and there isn't any room here for that.

Not hoping, just wondering

 

[Bob Owens]

Maybe he's worried about ALPA because they have the power to put him in the unemployment line.

You guys are morons - you JUST DON'T GET IT!!!]

AMAZING!!!!

Morons? I hope not!

So tell me what does it make you when you strap yourself into a seat in a plane travelling 500mph eight miles high with a 'moron" at the wheel?

As far as I'm concerned they screwed up the first time they agreed to concessions.

inflated rates? Tell me, do you even know what Delta pilots make compared to other airlines? I think you would be surprised.

People like C12 believe that everyone elses rates are inflated but its perfectly OK to pay some jerk that runs a company into the ground millions of dollars.

The suicide rate in the Atlanta area went up after maintenance employees at Eastern went on strike and put the airline out of business.

I wonder if the same thing will happen after the Delta pilots strike and force their company out of business.
🙁

Didnt the pilots and FAs join the IAM at EAL? Besides most of the mechanics at Delta are already gone arent they?

 

[WorldTraveler]

Bob,
The pilots are not the only ones taking cuts and most groups are taking much bigger cuts. Unsecured creditors will take a 100% pay cut - they will lose it all. Lessors of the MD80s are taking a 75% pay cut because that is what the market says. DL's non contract employees have taken 2 10% paycuts and had benefit changes that are costing them an additional 15-20% in salary - in total well over 30% and they were not as overpaid relative to the market as pilots are.... and the non-contract employees have taken insurance cost hits year after year just the way every other company in America has. And DL's employees as a group are shouldering a much smaller percentage of the total turnaround plan than did either UA or US' employees.

You do also realize that DL pilots even under the terrible concession plan that DL is asking for will make more than NW, UA, and US pilots? It's aweful hard for people to be sympathetic to a group that is willing to shut down an airline because they don't want to settle for being the 3rd highest paid pilots in the industry. And it doesn't matter if the DL pilots have taken 10 paycuts (which they haven't); they were still the highest paid pilots in the industry for 3 years straight and they had a much larger base from which to contribute.

And don't you dare so that the company is not negotiating. They have reduced their "ask" by $20 million per year and are considering the pension termination as part of the package of cuts. That is a very significant change on the company's part, and one which I feel is absolutely necessary if the company intends to terminate the pension plan as they say they will even though DL contends that it will keep its non-pilot pension plans if Congress finishes airline specific pension reform as it is expected to do.

I believe there will be a consensual agreement because the stakes are too high to allow failure. Nonetheless, I think we are all more than ready for this chapter in airline history and DL's specifically to pass and for Delta to return to being one of the most respected and profitable airlines in the industry - positions they have let slip away but will regain.

 

[Deleted by Moderator]

What happened to the "do it once, do it right" campaign WT? That wasn't that long ago. Should the mgmt take another cut just like it?

fyi - NO ONE took a bigger cut than the pilots and NO ONE is being asked to take another one that big this time. No wonder the pilots are ready to close shop and turn off the lights.

 

[Ch. 12]

fyi - NO ONE took a bigger cut than the pilots and NO ONE is being asked to take another one that big this time. No wonder the pilots are ready to close shop and turn off the lights.

fyi NO ONE took a bigger increase than the pilots prior to the cuts. You forget the important stuff.