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Detroit Files Chapter 9

The key point in your statement is that they were reliant on external aid...

Manufacturing jobs are leaving Michigan, but not necessarily leaving the US.

They're going to the business friendly Reb States, who are also winning back some work previously thought lost forever to China and Mexico....

How easy we forget...
Most jobs that left the US, would move operations to cheaper taxed states first. Then they would move it out of the country all together. You still have environmentalists that attack businesses for polluting our air, water and food, so give them time to perform their magic. The old formula that employers are for the employees is overrated when it comes to their bottom line. But only time will tell how an embattled web gets repaired so that it doesn't spread.
 
Yeah,.........thats because the Red State wages...are close to the wages in China/Mexico ! ! !
"CAPITALISTS / (CAPITALISM at any COST) "...L O V E S ..the 2 CLASS system.
Those F'n morons,.......in the lower class, who keep voting republican, just haven't figured that out yet !
Are those people working in those "red states" complaining. If not, leave them be. They have jobs. Any problem with that?
 
Are those people working in those "red states" complaining. If not, leave them be. They have jobs. Any problem with that?

It's a North vs. South thang for Barry-O. Everything south of the Mason Dixon, BAD. Everything north, GOOD ! He's a bigot, so has no choice !
 
Yeah,.........thats because the Red State wages...are close to the wages in China/Mexico ! ! !

Not always, Bears. In some cases, they're higher. The bigger issue has been taxation. The states who tax businesses the least amount will always see more businesses moving there. You also have the issues of compulsory union membership, but hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a great Archie BlackBears line...

Those F'n morons,.......in the lower class, who keep voting republican, just haven't figured that out yet !

Yeah, unlike those in the lower class who keep voting Democrat.

Detroit should be a wake-up call to Chicago, but it will probably fall on deaf ears.

Elsewhere, though, the "lower class" community seems to be waking up to the fact that after 50+ years of electing Democrats, the unemployment rate for young black men is twice that of other ethnicities, and educational standards continue to fail them generation after generation after generation.

Rachael Jeantel is a prime example of someone growing up in a Democrat controlled education system. With all due respect, so are you.

Fortunately, people are slowly waking up. That's why you see guys like Scott Walker and Rick Snyder getting elected as governors of previously Blue states. People are waking up. Maybe Iowa and Minnesota will be next.
 
Are those people working in those "red states" complaining. If not, leave them be. They have jobs. Any problem with that?

' 3B ',................Actually, no....I really don't have a problem with OTHER people screwing themselves and Sadly thier familys, by working for Walmart wages.
Low wages..begets....crappy healthcare bennys (if at all).....and lower SS checks come retirement time, and if there lucky a 401K, that in reality is a 101K. But I find it really Ironic, that the people who CRY the most ...over people who get 'Free Stuff', are the very people who are the ones...paying SH!T wages to begin with.
It's been shown...over and over that the upper class...live longer, soooo i'm guessing that the same might be said about the Middle class, vs the lower class.
I guess the ol' saying is true. You NEVER miss, what you NEVER had. By Jesus,....if Trailer prices / Parks..ever Rise, a LOT of people will be SCREWED Royal !
 
' 3B ',................Actually, no....I really don't have a problem with OTHER people screwing themselves and Sadly thier familys, by working for Walmart wages.
Low wages..begets....crappy healthcare bennys (if at all).....and lower SS checks come retirement time, and if there lucky a 401K, that in reality is a 101K. But I find it really Ironic, that the people who CRY the most ...over people who get 'Free Stuff', are the very people who are the ones...paying SH!T wages to begin with.
It's been shown...over and over that the upper class...live longer, soooo i'm guessing that the same might be said about the Middle class, vs the lower class.
I guess the ol' saying is true. You NEVER miss, what you NEVER had. By Jesus,....if Trailer prices / Parks..ever Rise, a LOT of people will be SCREWED Royal !

Yeah! And when BaRack-O-Care is fully reamed up the American citizens and American Company's a$$es, it won't matter if you live in the north or the south, the best you'll do is a 30 hour work week , with no bennies and having to pay for BaRack-O-care out of tour pocket !
3 cheers for Barack !
 
Is Delta planning on cutting you back to 30 hours a week due to Obmacare? Sounds like you might need a union then.

See if you can get through this article:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/07/unions-attack-obamacare-in-push-for-special-treat-under-the-law.php?m=1

Here is a piece of it:

"You know things have gone weird in the runup to Obamacare’s big rollout when Republicans are quoting big-name union leaders to make the case for scrapping the whole law.

But it turns out this alliance of convenience is bound by two interwoven acts of self-interest: the GOP’s unwillingness to fix one flawed piece of the law; and certain unions’ efforts to create a special carveout for their members — to offset potential disruptions Obamacare might create for workers and unions — at a politically vulnerable moment for the ACA.

Ironically, when Republicans side with labor against Obamacare, they’re unintentionally and obliquely endorsing efforts to secure tax subsidization for unions.

In a recent letter to the two top Democrats on Capitol Hill, the leaders of the Teamsters, United Food and Commercial Workers, and Unite Here wrote grimly about Obamacare, whose key benefits kick in five short months from now.

nless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class,” the letter reads.

They raise three concerns in their letter. The first is well known.

“[T]he law creates an incentive for employers to keep employees’ work hours below 30 hours a week,” the letter explains. “Numerous employers have begun to cut workers’ hours to avoid this obligation, and many of them are doing so openly. The impact is two-fold: fewer hours means less pay while also losing our current health benefits.”

This is a real issue, and was a big part of the reason the Obama administration has delayed implementation of the law’s employer mandate for one year. Ideally, Congress would simply tweak the offending provision, but the GOP has committed to never tinkering with the law to make it better, and so the provision in question does threaten worker compensation and benefits.

Until the GOP moves off its position, there’s nothing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi can do to fix it.

But that complaint serves as window dressing for the nex two items on the list, which are at the core of their concerns.

Instead of teaming up with big private insurers, some employers and unions have for years jointly run their own, non-profit group plans. These so-called Taft-Hartley plans function for many purposes like regular employer-sponsored insurance, and are treated as such in the tax code: employer contributions to premiums are tax deductible, and employee contributions are pre-tax. Nevertheless, unions are beseeching Democrats to reinterpret or change the law so that these particular beneficiaries also benefit from new tax credits intended to subsidize individuals who will be purchasing their own insurance in the exchanges. A double subsidy."

It explains things pretty well about the union/Republican positions on the ACA.
 
Is Delta planning on cutting you back to 30 hours a week due to Obmacare? Sounds like you might need a union then.

See if you can get through this article:

http://tpmdc.talking...the-law.php?m=1

Here is a piece of it:

"You know things have gone weird in the runup to Obamacare's big rollout when Republicans are quoting big-name union leaders to make the case for scrapping the whole law.

But it turns out this alliance of convenience is bound by two interwoven acts of self-interest: the GOP's unwillingness to fix one flawed piece of the law; and certain unions' efforts to create a special carveout for their members — to offset potential disruptions Obamacare might create for workers and unions — at a politically vulnerable moment for the ACA.

Ironically, when Republicans side with labor against Obamacare, they're unintentionally and obliquely endorsing efforts to secure tax subsidization for unions.

In a recent letter to the two top Democrats on Capitol Hill, the leaders of the Teamsters, United Food and Commercial Workers, and Unite Here wrote grimly about Obamacare, whose key benefits kick in five short months from now.

"nless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class," the letter reads.

They raise three concerns in their letter. The first is well known.

"[T]he law creates an incentive for employers to keep employees' work hours below 30 hours a week," the letter explains. "Numerous employers have begun to cut workers' hours to avoid this obligation, and many of them are doing so openly. The impact is two-fold: fewer hours means less pay while also losing our current health benefits."

This is a real issue, and was a big part of the reason the Obama administration has delayed implementation of the law's employer mandate for one year. Ideally, Congress would simply tweak the offending provision, but the GOP has committed to never tinkering with the law to make it better, and so the provision in question does threaten worker compensation and benefits.

Until the GOP moves off its position, there's nothing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi can do to fix it.

But that complaint serves as window dressing for the nex two items on the list, which are at the core of their concerns.

Instead of teaming up with big private insurers, some employers and unions have for years jointly run their own, non-profit group plans. These so-called Taft-Hartley plans function for many purposes like regular employer-sponsored insurance, and are treated as such in the tax code: employer contributions to premiums are tax deductible, and employee contributions are pre-tax. Nevertheless, unions are beseeching Democrats to reinterpret or change the law so that these particular beneficiaries also benefit from new tax credits intended to subsidize individuals who will be purchasing their own insurance in the exchanges. A double subsidy."

It explains things pretty well about the union/Republican positions on the ACA.


GREAT post Glenn,...........a 'Beauty' / 2 thumbs UP !
 
GREAT post Glenn,...........a 'Beauty' / 2 thumbs UP !

Err , I think you meant to say "Great Cut and Paste, Glen !"

"Companies cut part-time worker hours to avoid Obamacare requirement: report!"

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"Obamacare may end up hurting many of the part-time workers the President had hoped it would help.
Under the far-reaching health care law, large employers are required to offer health insurance to part-time employees working at least 30 hours a week.
But that’s not how it’s played out.

Instead of granting insurance plans to part-time employees, a growing number of larger firms are actually cutting back on workers’ hours altogether, the Los Angeles Times reported."

[background=rgb(255, 255, 255)]"In the process, the employers are stripping part-time workers not only of their ability to get company health insurance but of their much needed wages as well."
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Heck, even the government is cutting back on hours.... Half the people being hired to work an Obamacare call center in California won't have employer provided healthcare...

You can't make this stuff up...

http://newsbusters.o...p#ixzz2aOotQJLB

The new hires, many of whom left other full-time jobs for the call center positions, were told they were the "cream of the crop," the recent hire said.

Orientation and training started in July, but stopped on the afternoon of July 18, when employees were told they would have private meetings about their positions, the employee said.

"It reminded me of that George Clooney movie where he goes around the country firing people ('Up in the Air')," the employee said. "The woman said, 'I know you were led to believe you would be full time, but things have changed. ... You are actually 'part-time intermittent.'"

The worker said no clear reasons for the change were given.

Those who became part-time were told they would have to pay full freight on their health plans, ranging from $600 to $1,200 a month for a single worker and between $1,400 to $2,900 a month for an employee with a family. That is a steep bill for employees with part-time jobs paying from $15.33 to $18.63 an hour.

Another applicant said he ditched another job offer after getting a congratulatory hiring letter from call center operators in June, only to be given the runaround in the months since.
 
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