DL to suspend SEA-HND Flights
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you can only believe that if ignore the most fundamental statistics in the industry.
AA's operating profit margin was inferior to DL's.
AA's pre-tax income was inferior to DL's but better than UA's in total dollars.
AA's domestic RASM growth was inferior to DL's. And it was also inferior to UA's.
AA's int'l RASM performance was the worst in the industry led by
AA's fuel price per gallon was higher even though AA had no hedge losses.
the only thing superior was AA's net income and only because it is moving at a snail's pace to complete its merger and not spending money while other carriers had special charges.
AA's operating profit margin was inferior to DL's.
AA's pre-tax income was inferior to DL's but better than UA's in total dollars.
AA's domestic RASM growth was inferior to DL's. And it was also inferior to UA's.
AA's int'l RASM performance was the worst in the industry led by
AA's fuel price per gallon was higher even though AA had no hedge losses.
the only thing superior was AA's net income and only because it is moving at a snail's pace to complete its merger and not spending money while other carriers had special charges.
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up and down in what?
AA's capacity increase on the Pacific is 14%, RASM is up year over year while DL is down, but AA is clearly still smaller than DL or UA. also, the last quarter shows that AA lost money flying the Pacific while DL made money. Perhaps it will change with the 3rd quarter - DOT data is always about 3 months after the public financial statements - but AA is improving its results but is not profitable on the Pacific while DL and UA are based on current data. DL and UA also generate far higher yields on the Pacific than AA does.
AA's capacity increase on the Pacific is 14%, RASM is up year over year while DL is down, but AA is clearly still smaller than DL or UA. also, the last quarter shows that AA lost money flying the Pacific while DL made money. Perhaps it will change with the 3rd quarter - DOT data is always about 3 months after the public financial statements - but AA is improving its results but is not profitable on the Pacific while DL and UA are based on current data. DL and UA also generate far higher yields on the Pacific than AA does.
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you obviously cannot read AA's financial statement because the figure for AA's revenue change on the Pacific is not 10.7%.
wanna tell us what that number is?
wanna tell us what that number is?
Actually I can its in their table - you might try some glasses or retake the reading earnings report class
I know this will be hard for you so I'm going to go very slow - here are the steps to get this number:
Open the earnings announcement
On your mouse you might find a wheel to scroll through the release or use the bar on the side of your browser to scroll down
This is when it gets really hard - find the section called "combined revenue statistics by region entity"
If your tired at this point take a break
Once you found it look at pacific section up look at first or last row
It's funny you could find the Latin america numbers to say AA has problems in the same section but went right past the stellar pacific performance
Your lack of objectivity is amazing- it's to show the great lengths you go to trash AA and overlook things that don't fit your narrative
Are you still in your DL pajamas
I know this will be hard for you so I'm going to go very slow - here are the steps to get this number:
Open the earnings announcement
On your mouse you might find a wheel to scroll through the release or use the bar on the side of your browser to scroll down
This is when it gets really hard - find the section called "combined revenue statistics by region entity"
If your tired at this point take a break
Once you found it look at pacific section up look at first or last row
It's funny you could find the Latin america numbers to say AA has problems in the same section but went right past the stellar pacific performance
Your lack of objectivity is amazing- it's to show the great lengths you go to trash AA and overlook things that don't fit your narrative
Are you still in your DL pajamas
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now tell me the value for the change in revenue for AA's Pacific system.
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you can't read a financial statement after all.
there is no number on the AA earnings release for the change in revenue on the Pacific.
You picked something out of thin air and ran with it.
and you were and are wrong.
it usually doesn't take too long for me to debate someone on factual issues here to find out whether they know whether they are talking about.
you don't.
there is no number on the AA earnings release for the change in revenue on the Pacific.
You picked something out of thin air and ran with it.
and you were and are wrong.
it usually doesn't take too long for me to debate someone on factual issues here to find out whether they know whether they are talking about.
you don't.
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AA's traffic is up by 10%.
if the strategy is to flood the market with new capacity in hopes that one day it will be profitable, then yes, AA's strategy is working.
based on currently available DOT data, DL and UA are profitable flying to Asia while AA is not. on a day full of chest thumping about making the most money, it would seem that profitability is what really matters.
if the strategy is to flood the market with new capacity in hopes that one day it will be profitable, then yes, AA's strategy is working.
based on currently available DOT data, DL and UA are profitable flying to Asia while AA is not. on a day full of chest thumping about making the most money, it would seem that profitability is what really matters.
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I don't know which of Dougie's supposed mental bodyguards you are but you are clearly taking all of this information about how AA is actually doing quite poorly.
Since you brought up the SEA market, you do realize that AS carried less revenue per mile than DL - including in SEA.
AS spinned it by saying they were able to use brand new 739ERs which burn as much fuel as older generation 737s - so all they did was use new airplanes to wait, flood the market with new seats, and push their revenue per seat mile down.
Where was AA to help AS?
they were throwing their new aircraft into Asia.
and no, AA didn't increase its capacity to Asia by 10%.
you can't read a financial statement so you really have no idea what the actual number is but it is clear that you can't find the percentage increase in AA's revenue on the Pacific so you just made a figure up.
Since you brought up the SEA market, you do realize that AS carried less revenue per mile than DL - including in SEA.
AS spinned it by saying they were able to use brand new 739ERs which burn as much fuel as older generation 737s - so all they did was use new airplanes to wait, flood the market with new seats, and push their revenue per seat mile down.
Where was AA to help AS?
they were throwing their new aircraft into Asia.
and no, AA didn't increase its capacity to Asia by 10%.
you can't read a financial statement so you really have no idea what the actual number is but it is clear that you can't find the percentage increase in AA's revenue on the Pacific so you just made a figure up.
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