Donald Sterling Clippers owner alleged racist.

[700UW]

The right wingers are scrambling, they dont know how to handle the fact Sterling is a registered republican since 1998, the birds are chirping, thats all we can hear.

 

[delldude]

The right wingers are scrambling, they dont know how to handle the fact Sterling is a registered republican since 1998, the birds are chirping, thats all we can hear.

 
I hate doing your footwork Dude.....asleep at the wheel?  LOL

 

[Ms Tree]

Yep. The Clippers are a losing franchise in comparison, but that's still a lot of change.

I find it curious that this was the lead story on the news, as opposed to the 11 people who died in tornadoes yesterday...

Just looked at FOX site and the tornado is not even mentioned.  Top story for them is stil Benghazi.  Sterling made it in an Op-Ed at the very bottom of the page.  I find it currious also that the caring republicans would not even mention the poor folks who got killed by the tornado.
 
Could it possibly be that new is ran by advertizing dollars and the various site put the news on that their readers are interested in?  Apparently the FOX viewers don't give a rats ass about the tornado victims either.

 

[delldude]

Just looked at FOX site and the tornado is not even mentioned.  Top story for them is stil Benghazi.  Sterling made it in an Op-Ed at the very bottom of the page.  I find it currious also that the caring republicans would not even mention the poor folks who got killed by the tornado.
 
Could it possibly be that new is ran by advertizing dollars and the various site put the news on that their readers are interested in?  Apparently the FOX viewers don't give a rats ass about the tornado victims either.

 
CBS found the plane....
 
NBC cares.....

 

[700UW]

And the NBA just banned him from life from the NBA.
 
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10857580/donald-sterling-los-angeles-clippers-owner-receives-life-ban-nba

 

[eolesen]

Yep. And they're going to try to take his property away (his ownership remains for the time being, but they are seeking to force a sale of the team). The league is also considering allowing the player roster to declare free agency & leave, effectively destroying any value the team would have in a sale.

Only in Amerika do they seize your property for politically incorrect speech.

NBA players can call each other ninja and behave like absolute thugs in public, but God forbid a white guy say something in what should have been a private conversation, which was illegally taped (California has a two-party consent law for recording conversations: http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/california-recording-law).

Personally, I find what he said repulsive, but the league has overreached here by a wide margin.

Sterling should just give the league the finger, ignore the ban, refuse to pay the fine, and let them sue him.

He's got deep enough pockets, and the legality of how the conversation was leaked gives him room to sue those (including his girlfriend & TMZ) who released the conversation for damages resulting from may have been an illegal action to begin with. Fruit of the poisoned tree, so to speak.

 

[700UW]

They are not trying to take his property, they are going to try and see if they can make him sell the team.
 
Baseball did it to Marge Schott.
 
He has no place in the league where the majority of the players are black.
 
And he has agreed to follow the NBA constitution, so he gets what he deserves.

 

[eolesen]

Forcing a sale means he loses money. That is property. If they take the step of allowing players to leave, that will cause the value of the franchise to plummet, and allow someone else to get the franchise at a fire sale price.

Baseball didn't give Schott a lifetime ban. She got a $250,000 fine and a two year ban on day to day operations. Schott wasn't banned from attending games or being at Reds facilities. The other owners of the Reds eventually pushed her out, but the league had no standing to do so, and she essentially got fair market value for her ownership stake.

Sterling got a lifetime ban, a $2.5M fine, and faces a devaluation on his property in the area of hundreds of millions of dollars.

No matter how repulsive his actions are, it's an overreach, and a double standard. The NBA constitution isn't applied equally if an owner gets this treatment while players can do whatever they want.

 

[777 fixer]

Only in Amerika do they seize your property for politically incorrect speech.


 

 
Companies can fire you for saying something they don't like or for posting something on social media they don't like.  Where's your moral outrage over that?  What's the difference between the two?  Other than if a company fires you you get nothing where as Mr. Sterling could make a profit from the sale of his team.

 

[777 fixer]

Only in Amerika do they seize your property for politically incorrect speech.


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Why do you think there are so many Chinese millionaires buying up homes in places like Southern California?  Because they know if they run afoul of the Chinese government they could lose everything and not get one yuan in return.

 

[eolesen]

Mirroring the Chinese methods of retaliation is OK with you?...

Companies can fire you for saying something they don't like or for posting something on social media they don't like.  Where's your moral outrage over that?  What's the difference between the two?  Other than if a company fires you you get nothing where as Mr. Sterling could make a profit from the sale of his team.

The difference is the NBA and the players aren't paying Sterling's salary. He's paying them. He bought the franchise, and pays into the NBA annually.

The allegations are that Sterling violated an established code of conduct, yet Sterling was no stranger to race allegations, and the league never took any action before this week?... Please. Reactionary. Over-reaching. And I'm sure there will be a lawsuit somewhere.

 

[delldude]

 
Companies can fire you for saying something they don't like or for posting something on social media they don't like.  Where's your moral outrage over that?  What's the difference between the two?  Other than if a company fires you you get nothing where as Mr. Sterling could make a profit from the sale of his team.

 
Dude, he is the company.

 

[Ms Tree]

Trump, Jones and the posse to the rescue.
 
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/of-course-donald-trump-and-alex-jones-have-joined-the-defenders-of-donald-sterling/361319/
 
I'd pick out a juicy bit but they are all just too special.

 

[Ms Tree]

Mirroring the Chinese methods of retaliation is OK with you?...


The difference is the NBA and the players aren't paying Sterling's salary. He's paying them. He bought the franchise, and pays into the NBA annually.

The allegations are that Sterling violated an established code of conduct, yet Sterling was no stranger to race allegations, and the league never took any action before this week?... Please. Reactionary. Over-reaching. And I'm sure there will be a lawsuit somewhere.

Unless I am mistaken, the NBA is a private business.  Do they not have the right to protect their investment?  If Sterling is bad for business, why should the other teams have to suffer with guilt by association?  Why should the players be forced to work under a owner who despises them?  Why are you so anti-business?

 

[Knotbuyinit]

Unless I am mistaken, the NBA is a private business.  Do they not have the right to protect their investment?  If Sterling is bad for business, why should the other teams have to suffer with guilt by association?  Why should the players be forced to work under a owner who despises them?  Why are you so anti-business?

Yes, the NBA is a private business. Yes, Sterling has a right to protect the investment in his franchise. The only business Sterling is bad for is his own. Sorry, no punitive or compensatory damages awarded to those who feel "guilt by association". The players are not being "forced" to play but are contractually required to play. Sterling may in fact (not proven, only alleged)despises negroe players but he has complied with his contractual obligation to pay them. The facts as they are, Sterling has a long, colorful history of racial discrimination and despite the public record, his black employees willfully elected to sign a contract with him anyway. As a side note, the NAACP also knew of Sterling's history of racial discrimination but nominated him for the Achievement award as well.

E is not anti-business, you're just being your usual legal illiterate self. You might want to read up on the little "innocent until proven guilty" thingie.

It will be close to impossible for the NBA to force Sterling to sell his franchise. First, the NBA must verify the veracity of the tape. It must establish that the voice on the tape is indeed Sterlings, and that any breaks and pauses are not doctored, indicating possible splicing of different recordings. Since the recording is in possession of celebrity news website TMZ, and the NBA is a private business with no subpoena power, that will not be an easy task. Under California law, it is a crime to record someone without their consent and people who are surreptitiously recorded can sue. The woman who gave the recording to TMZ may have done so with the proviso that it is secret, so TMZ may be reluctant to simply turn over the original.

Basic NBA overreach.