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I went to Envoy training and was very impressed! The service and presentation is on par with the other major TA airlines. If US pulls thru and does what they say, we will be VERY competitive with the other carriers. I do believe they are coming around, but part of me keeps thinking I'll believe it when I see it, BTW, the "skirt" on the cart is VERY nice and is far better than what any other carrier has. Now, go trash my post and be the regular HATE US AIRWAYS people that you all have become and find 10,000 reasons to trash the company!!
 
I just went to Envoy training as well. Like you I was very impressed. If F/As do the service correctly and if the company gives us the tools they taught us with, it will be a very nice business class product. I don't know which will be the bigger "if" though. Piney, you will be impressed.

Not sure about the brunch items for westbound flights though. I can't see many people wanting Texas Toast at noon or later for lunch. My prediction is brunch items won't last very long and will be replaced with something more typical for lunch, such as: a chicken entree, egg/quiche/souffle entree and a veggie pasta entree with the forth choice being the Executive selection as a club sandwich or some other type of upgraded sandwich with a salad. At least they are trying something new and recognizing our Envoy product has suffered.....It is very nice to see. :up: :up: :up:
 
Hey guys! That is great news to hear about our new Envoy product! Thanks for posting something nice about US!
 
How is the Envoy service compaired with pre 9-11 service?

In terms of presentation, nowhere near what it was. In terms of food selections, similar. The pax will have a choice of 3-4 toppings for their salad and two dressings eastbound. Westbound they will have a selection of canapes to choose from. We will be using meal carts dressed up with linens and a drape (looks very nice) to serve everything chairside. It makes it much easier for us. There will also now be a selection of two desserts to choose from along with a variety of fruit and cheese. It's a nice presentation. And no more colapsable carts to fight with. :up:
 
I went to Envoy training and was very impressed! The service and presentation is on par with the other major TA airlines. If US pulls thru and does what they say, we will be VERY competitive with the other carriers. I do believe they are coming around, but part of me keeps thinking I'll believe it when I see it, BTW, the "skirt" on the cart is VERY nice and is far better than what any other carrier has. Now, go trash my post and be the regular HATE US AIRWAYS people that you all have become and find 10,000 reasons to trash the company!!

I'd be interested in hearing details to see how competitive it is going to be. Sometimes people think it is competitive yet they haven't flown on the competiton to know whether it is or not. And, I hope you are right, but like you, I will believe it when I see it.
 
When will this new Envoy service roll out?
Roll out is April

I will hit upon some highlights. These are items that have to do with the service and not the a/c itself. We were told that the 330 will be renovated and a new Panasonic system will replace the Passport system currently used. We are getting new and improves blankets for Envoy.

The company has changed the service so that it is not only easier, but it allows more interaction with the customer. In the past, the f/a's were running out trays looking like a bunch of clowns at a three ring circus. Now, like most all other Biz Classes, the trays, linens, bread will all be done from the cart after the initial bev service. The so called cart "skirt" is VERY nice and covers the entire cart so it shows no aged carts at their worst. Everything you need will be in the cart. The E (on the 330) will follow behind with extra bread and wine or whatever bev the person desires. The domed chinaware covers we had years ago will be back so that the distribution is easier. We all had an opportunity to do the service hands on and I must say it was very easy and less crazy. Also, the same meal cart will have the dessert on the opposite side so that all you have to do when you do the dessert/fruit, cheese service is turn around the cart as well as the "skirt". On the top will be coffee and a tray of fruit and cheese. The desserts will be larger with 2 choices. BTW, before anyone questions it, no, you will not put the dirty trays back in the same cart.

As far as food, they will be higher end meats instead of the crap we have now. They will be of American fare with simple sauces that will compliment various country palettes. The breads will will be fresh from local bakeries. Does that mean Biscuittville in CLT? LOL!! The overall quaility of food and wines is to improve, but the main focus is on consistancy. I can honestly tell you this service WORKS and anyone that tries it another way are just being difficult. It is so easy. It will also allow the f/a's to be seen more and allow more interaction, which is something that the customer says they would like. My feeling is the service is so easy now that you have no reason to be mean.

Catering is now going to fall under inflight and catering will be held accountable for making sure all is where it should be. I can't help what is done seat wise or if the carpet is clean or if the cabin as duct tape free, but I can do a very nice, consistant service that is stress free. Yes, I kept telling myself "I'll believe it when I see it", but I have chosen to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Overview
E boards. H assist with jackets and predeparture bevs.
CSD/D handing out menus/amenity kits/newspaper, mags.
After takeoff, H turns in IFE and goes to front galley to prepare for initial bev service while CSD/D go out with half carts offering headsets, bottles of water and forms (yes forms will be done at the beginning for both cabins). E prepares hot towels and CSD/D take them to front after handing out items on cart.
After bev service, H goes to economy where they will be finishing forms and headsets and ready for service.
CSD/D refresh as E brings meal carts to front of cabin. E starts meals before taking carts to front.
CSD/D begin service while E follows behind to refresh bevs and offer extra bread.
Clear in
D plates and serves entree for double seats on ac right while E will plate the meals for the CSD for the other seats.
Refresh bevs and clear in while E prepares dessert/coffee cart.
CSD/D do dessert service.
Clear in.

Snacking station will be set up now at mid cabin galley. FAA says other way is a no no.
Arrival service will be same.

I like the brunch idea. There is only one item that is sweet. You are coming TO America and MANY embrace brunch. There were PLENTY of choices and will be catered at 135%, so guess what the crew will be eating if not popular? But I think it is nice to offer it, considering most TA flights leave at 9:30 -11:30 am. We will also have an array of appetizers that really looked tasty. Let's hope the real thing is as good as the pics. We will also have our own signature bloody mary mix. I think the brunch thing is fresh and innovative and distinctively American.

WELL, that's about it. Let's hope it all looks as great as presented and is catered as announced. Again, inside I won't get my hopes up. Outside, I will hope the company doesn't once again fail to implement something.
 
aww.. so you mean this won't be our meal service in Envoy??

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not sure about the Texas Toast though...
 
I can't see many people wanting Texas Toast at noon or later for lunch.

Texas Toast?!? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

WTF?!? Is this Envoy or a Dairy Queen in Pecos, Texas?? Are we going to serve deep fried Chicken Fingers with Cream Gravy and potato wedges along with the Texas Toast? :lol:

You guys are way too easily impressed. Texas Toast...for God's sake. 🙄

I can see the cartwheels from the ranks when they say that we will also be serving Peanut-buster parfaits for dessert.

This is a freaking joke. This airline will never compare to the likes of REAL airlines who offer business class to Europe. NEVER!
 
Texas Toast?!? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

WTF?!? Is this Envoy or a Dairy Queen in Pecos, Texas?? Are we going to serve deep fried Chicken Fingers with Cream Gravy and potato wedges along with the Texas Toast? :lol:

You guys are way too easily impressed. Texas Toast...for God's sake. 🙄

I can see the cartwheels from the ranks when they say that we will also be serving Peanut-buster parfaits for dessert.

This is a freaking joke. This airline will never compare to the likes of REAL airlines who offer business class to Europe. NEVER!


Now, go trash my post and be the regular HATE US AIRWAYS people that you all have become and find 10,000 reasons to trash the company!!




We almost made it 24 hours without the first negative post
 
You guys are way too easily impressed.

This is a freaking joke.
I must agree. It really is pathetic. It doesn't even seem like it is served in courses. AA, CO, and UA's domestic transcon still blows this "improved" service out of the water. Who is making these decisions? As far as serving with the cart, an AA f/a told me recently that they got a memo recently saying keep carts out of FC cabin to do the service.
 
I must agree. It really is pathetic. It doesn't even seem like it is served in courses. AA, CO, and UA's domestic transcon still blows this "improved" service out of the water. Who is making these decisions? As far as serving with the cart, an AA f/a told me recently that they got a memo recently saying keep carts out of FC cabin to do the service.
The service was mirrored after Luftansa...not American. You know, I am glad you guys have found new beloved airlines. Go stay with them and support them. I have been somewhat silent here recently and have stepped back and watched the HATEFUL negativity that you and others post here. While US Airways DESERVES much of the complaining, you and Art have crossed the line of just plain mean, bitter, arrogant, and RUDE!! You have learned you get more value at American, so great...congratulations!! Now please leave us alone as your support is no longer constructive, but destructive.
 
DUMB IT DOWN PEOPLE. :blush: You all have to remember most of us took delivery of the A330 and remember Rack of Lamb being carved in the isle of the 767. We fly on our competition that charges the same amount to watch our customer get fleeced. That being said I am hearing people going through training say it's not all that bad. Compared to what is the question? What we have now is abysmal. What we are implementing is mediocre. I will welcome any upgrade at this point. The for sale sign is put on the nose of every aircraft at this point. This is a stop gap and pacifier. What is the least amount we can do to shut them up type of thing. It will be someone or no one else's problem very soon. They are not interesting in finding an identity, they are just biding time. Sprucing it up for the open house. Sound familiar to us East people? 😉
 
Now, go trash my post and be the regular HATE US AIRWAYS people that you all have become and find 10,000 reasons to trash the company!!

When I am given a valid reason to have distaste for an inferior product, you bet I'll shout out.

Business Class should be about Caviar Sevruga Malossol accompanied with chilled Stolichnaya and Langouste Belle-Vue served from a beautifully appointed three-tier cart adorned with fresh flowers.

Business Class should be a nice warm chicken consomme with profiteroles and a nice salad of the season. This followed with an entree of the likes of a rack of lamb with mint sauce or chicken diable.

Now that's service.

I am not going to apologize nor say that I am impressed with mini Bon-bels with Texas Toast and Ritz Crackers as an Hors d'oeuvre. It's actually pathetic when compared with the product of our competition. With everyone describing Envoy pre-9/11 and the rave reviews that it received from critics, I would be insulted to serve this so-called "improvement".

I find nothing appealing about a banged up meal cart with squeaky wheels that is dolled up with a skirt being rolled out into the Envoy cabin. Open the cart and the stench of food from months past that has not been cleaned out of the cart wafts through the cabin. Sounds (and smells) lovely. :down: The service you describe is nothing but Economy with window dressing.
 

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