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In 2006, post-merger, US Airways reported net income was as follows:



US Airways: $343 million net income

America West: Net loss $37 million



In 2005, America West lost $347 million



These undisputed facts shed light on who saved who, or was it mutually beneficial.
 
They already know they were saved by the EAST give it a rest!!!!!!!!!!
 
In 2006, post-merger, US Airways reported net income was as follows:



US Airways: $343 million net income

America West: Net loss $37 million



In 2005, America West lost $347 million



These undisputed facts shed light on who saved who, or was it mutually beneficial.
I love statistics. They can be used to try and prove points on either side of an argument.

2005 operating loss for US Airways: $213 million

2005 operating loss for America West: $120 million


Really this who saved who business is just complete speculation by all parties involved. We'll never really know what each of these airlines was capable of by itself because the industry is and was (2004-2005) so dynamic. I don't really believe that the East was days or as some like to say hours away from shutting their doors. I also believe that all responsible airlines had a bankruptcy plan formed before the laws were changed radically to give more control to creditors in case a catastrophic event for this industry took place (i.e. terrorist attack or oil embargo). The fact that the East has gone through two bankruptcies and the West one does not diminish that employees on both sides of this fence who sacrificed so much should be respected despite the very different opinions.
 
I love statistics. They can be used to try and prove points on either side of an argument.

2005 operating loss for US Airways: $213 million

2005 operating loss for America West: $120 million
Really this who saved who business is just complete speculation by all parties involved. We'll never really know what each of these airlines was capable of by itself because the industry is and was (2004-2005) so dynamic. I don't really believe that the East was days or as some like to say hours away from shutting their doors. I also believe that all responsible airlines had a bankruptcy plan formed before the laws were changed radically to give more control to creditors in case a catastrophic event for this industry took place (i.e. terrorist attack or oil embargo). The fact that the East has gone through two bankruptcies and the West one does not diminish that employees on both sides of this fence who sacrificed so much should be respected despite the very different opinions.
bravo!! :up:
 
In 2006, post-merger, US Airways reported net income was as follows:

US Airways: $343 million net income

America West: Net loss $37 million

In 2005, America West lost $347 million

These undisputed facts shed light on who saved who, or was it mutually beneficial.

Ah, Baghdad Arnie at his slimy best. I'm not going to post the couple of hundred pages of hearing transcripts but that argument was blown out of the water. Basically it showed that AWA management, using financing which was available only because of AWA's willingness to merge with Titanic air, renegotiated leases on aircraft, buildings, etc. The resulting savings showed up on the East balance sheet, while the West incurred costs related to the merger, responsible for the paper loss.

Same Sh@t, different day: Arnie lies, the lemmings believe him.

The only thing that matters: Arnie and the rest of the Ministry of Propaganda were unable to sway the arbitration panel. In their unanimous* decision they wrote:

“Our view is that neither picture is persuasive. The US Airways reliance on post-merger statements by America’s West CEO, clearly made to assuage growing concerns of America West pilots who had seen a post-merger end to hiring, an increasing return of long-furloughed US Airways pilots and a flattening in their own advancement, is misplaced. Equally so is America West’s insistence that US Airways was about to disappear. Yet, it cannot be disputed that there were differences in the financial condition of both carriers and that US Airways was the weaker. This necessarily means that career expectations differed and that US Airways pilots had more to gain from the merger than their new colleagues.â€￾

*Remember that the only dissenting comment was from one neutral who didn't agree with the way the MDA pilots were integrated.

I always wondered how people, who are supposed to know better, could blindly follow nutcases like Chavez, Castro and Ghadaffi. Some of the East posters shed a lot of light on that question.
 
*Remember that the only dissenting comment was from one neutral who didn't agree with the way the MDA pilots were integrated.

and the other neutral had a vested interest in AWA stapling the US pilots to the bottom.

Seems you are pretty good at lying by omission.

I always wondered how people, who are supposed to know better, could blindly follow nutcases like Chavez, Castro and Ghadaffi. Some of the East posters shed a lot of light on that question.

and I always wonder about those calling themselves "Zitface". Product of the pus within?
 
and the other neutral had a vested interest in AWA stapling the US pilots to the bottom.

Delusional zealot checklist please:

Vast right-wing conspiracy plot - Check
Failure to take any responsibility for own actions - Check
File frivolous lawsuit - Check
Adjust truth to fit own skewed view of reality - Check

That's one checklist you guys got down pat.

Now, don't you have a cliff to run off of, lemming boy?
 
Delusional zealot checklist please:

Vast right-wing conspiracy plot - Check
Failure to take any responsibility for own actions - Check
File frivolous lawsuit - Check
Adjust truth to fit own skewed view of reality - Check

That's one checklist you guys got down pat.

Now, don't you have a cliff to run off of, lemming boy?


Well, looky that.

Mr. Pustule lost an argument, again.
 
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