Flights to/From Jamaica

[BuffaloJoe]

On flights to and from Jamaica, do they go around Cuba or are they able to overfly Cuba?

 

[N924PS]

On flights to and from Jamaica, do they go around Cuba or are they able to overfly Cuba?

Overflights are allowed but an overflight permit to transit Cuban airspace with a specific number is required. I'm not sure what it costs the company.

No photographs are permitted, however.

 

[az_wild727]

Overflights are allowed but an overflight permit to transit Cuban airspace with a specific number is required. I'm not sure what it costs the company.

No photographs are permitted, however.

What do you mean by no photographs are permitted?

 

[N924PS]

What do you mean by no photographs are permitted?

Per the USAirways Flight Operations Manual:

Use of cameras over Cuba is prohibited.

Not that a satellite, SR-71, or U-2 hasn't photographed every square since of the island since Castro siezed power back in 1959 or so.

But, that is what appears in the manual, I swear.

 

[az_wild727]

Per the USAirways Flight Operations Manual:

Use of cameras over Cuba is prohibited.

Not that a satellite, SR-71, or U-2 hasn't photographed every square since of the island since Castro siezed power back in 1959 or so.

But, that is what appears in the manual, I swear.

Wow thanks for that. So you mean pax are not allowed to take any pictures of Cuba? I wonder what would happen if the FA caught them. Then again, coming back from MBJ to FLL in April 2006 a bunch of Jamaicans were taking photos of Cuba and the FA's saw them and nothing happened.

 

[AlleghenyVista]

Wow thanks for that. So you mean pax are not allowed to take any pictures of Cuba? I wonder what would happen if the FA caught them. Then again, coming back from MBJ to FLL in April 2006 a bunch of Jamaicans were taking photos of Cuba and the FA's saw them and nothing happened.

OH please people! Just worked a 1 day MBJ turn, passengers were in all there glory when Cuba was announced on the PA from the cockpit. I saw many a flash go off.

 

[pit_needs_help]

OH please people! Just worked a 1 day MBJ turn, passengers were in all there glory when Cuba was announced on the PA from the cockpit. I saw many a flash go off.

Last year it was 151 dollars for an overfly.

 

[nycbusdriver]

The flight release also notes that photography is not permitted in Cuban airspace. Knowing human nature, I never make that announcement nor even let the folks know they are flying over Cuba. The second you tell the passengers that they're flying over Cuba and no pictures are permitted, every camera in the airplane will be aimed out the windows.

You just never know who might be on board, see this happen and mention it to Cuban authorities. If Havana got word that USAirways was disregarding this Cuban requirement, Cuba might very well refuse USAirways permission to overfly. That would get rather expensive while the State Department attempted to iron things out.

Additionally, I would be very surprised if even 2 percent of the flight attendants know this rule (unless, of course, the officious cockpit hotshots decide to bloviate over the PA about it.)

 

[JAXPax]

Overflight rights and ATC services are a fairly good source of income for Cuba. Of course all the money is "laundered" through international entities so it isn't like sending a check from the United States.

 

[pilot]

The flight release also notes that photography is not permitted in Cuban airspace. Knowing human nature, I never make that announcement nor even let the folks know they are flying over Cuba. The second you tell the passengers that they're flying over Cuba and no pictures are permitted, every camera in the airplane will be aimed out the windows.

You just never know who might be on board, see this happen and mention it to Cuban authorities. If Havana got word that USAirways was disregarding this Cuban requirement, Cuba might very well refuse USAirways permission to overfly. That would get rather expensive while the State Department attempted to iron things out.

Additionally, I would be very surprised if even 2 percent of the flight attendants know this rule (unless, of course, the officious cockpit hotshots decide to bloviate over the PA about it.)

Well speaking of bloviating that was quite a dissertation.

I assume the 2% you speak of would be the ones you fly with since I'm certain you cover it in your crew briefing.

God forbid some officious, hotshot, bloviating pilot would let the vacationing passengers aboard know they are looking at Cuba, probably for the only time in their lives, for fear we might cost the company money if a spy was aboard. Yeah, good for you jack!

Damn those other pilots who aren't as smart as you. Keep saving the company money so someday you can get your pension back. Or maybe, if you're lucky, make as much as other pilots.

At least we know what you think of your profession; Busdriver. Tell the GAG I said Hi.

 

[xoxo]

I recently went to mbj and the pilots told everyone about us flying over cuba. That was the first time I ever heard them do that, and yes people took photos...who cares though. I hope someday we fly there.