I'm flying!

[700UW]

ok here is a fact as you stated" while flying tpa-cun" you flew over cuba.... that is a little off is'nt it?????

Nope, that was the flight path.

 

[delldude]

I flew TPA-CUN and it was cleary stated no photography while over Cuba and Cuban airspace by the flight crew.

Does the government shut off the KH-11 big bird satellites when they task over Fidels House?

Nobody told google earth either...i'm at 2508 feet over trinidad right now and it looks nice and clear

Wow...some russkie migs on the ramp at Jose Marti int'l a/p outside Havana...don't tell Fidel...

 

[700UW]

There is a difference between photography overflying Cuba than a satellite taking pics.

Apples and Oranges.

 

[delldude]

There is a difference between photography overflying Cuba than a satellite taking pics.

Apples and Oranges.

US AIrways Flight 347,we have reports of a picture taker around the barkey VOR intersection,please advise on a visual contact....

 

[dariencc]

Nope, that was the flight path.

There are no flights from the US to Cancun that overfly Cuba. None.

The airways from the eastern US to/from Cancun stay well west (approx. 30-40 miles) of Cuba. That applies to all flights at all airlines.

If you overflew Cuba on such a trip it was part of a weather deviation. No notification of the passengers would have been required in such an event.

 

[700UW]

Funny myself and several friends flew from TPA-CUN on NWA and we overflew Cuban Airspace as was told no photography while in Cuban Airspace.

Try again.

And you have to get permission 48 hours prior from Cuba to overfly.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[dariencc]

Funny myself and several friends flew from TPA-CUN on NWA and we overflew Cuban Airspace as was told no photography while in Cuban Airspace.

Try again.

And you have to get permission 48 hours prior from Cuba to overfly.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

From Lavman to Caribbean operations expert in the blink of an eye. Only on US Aviation.com!

IF this actually happened as you state, then the NWA crew who made the announcement didn't understand the situation, and no announcement was required.

You are now referring only to overflying "Cuban airspace" when you previously stated you "overflew Cuba."

Does this mean that photography is forbidden aboard US registered aircaft overflying the Straights of Florida, halfway between Cuba and the Florida Keys, but under the control of Havana Center? It must be so, because this is the rough equivalent of what you experienced on your way to Cancun. Your route kept you well offshore.

There are only two airways over Cuba that US aircraft may operate on. Neither leads to Cancun, Lavman. Why don't you do some research on the subject before spouting off.

And what is the relevance to this subject of the "48 hour notification" that you gratuitously added to your post. Or was it to make yourself look more knowledgable? HA!

Here's a 50 point bonus question. What is UB646?


dariencc

 

[700UW]

Since you are an expert on nothing and was not on the flight you dont know what happened.

We overflew Cuba and the Pilot came on and said no photography while over Cuba.

Plain and simple.

 

[etops1]

hey 700, stick to being a s#it cleaner. your much better at that .

 

[700UW]

Such maturity from you once again, keep up the insults since you dont have the brain power to add to the topic.

Don't you have Kirby's Car to wash or grass to cut?

 

[etops1]

Such maturity from you once again, keep up the insults since you dont have the brain power to add to the topic.

Don't you have Kirby's Car to wash or grass to cut?

i knew you would bite. actually cleaning cars and mowing grass is much better than pumping s#it and pi$$. don't you agree?

 

[700UW]

If you had a brain you would know:

1. I am not at US anymore
2. That function was outsourced.
3. Job is very easy and at the hey day we were making almost $20 an hour.
4. Your ETOPS flights dont leave without being signed off by Utility, now a vendor for the service being accomplished.

Just remember if they could put a coke machine in the galley you would be obsolete.

And dumping lavs pays more then you kissing up to Kirby, better hurry, and finish his lawn or he won't answer your e-mails anymore.

 

[etops1]

If you had a brain you would know:

1. I am not at US anymore
2. That function was outsourced.
3. Job is very easy and at the hey day we were making almost $20 an hour.
4. Your ETOPS flights dont leave without being signed off by Utility, now a vendor for the service being accomplished.

Just remember if they could put a coke machine in the galley you would be obsolete.

And dumping lavs pays more then you kissing up to Kirby, better hurry, and finish his lawn or he won't answer your e-mails anymore.

1. thank god for that
2. good cause you did a pos job anyway(no pun intended)
3.$20 an hr to pump s#it? that's preety good . i will give you that.
4.as long as your not the one signing it off it's ok with me.
just remember that it was your sorry ass that they out sourced not me.

 

[dariencc]

Since you are an expert on nothing and was not on the flight you dont know what happened.

We overflew Cuba and the Pilot came on and said no photography while over Cuba.

Plain and simple.

Expert on nothing? Maybe so, my friend, and there are actually quite a few things I know nothing about, such as dumping lavs. As an A320 Captain who regularly flies the Caribbean, however, I do know a teeny bit about this subject.

As I stated in an earlier post, if you overflew Cuba on a TPA-CUN flight it was part of a weather deviation. It was not part of the filed flight plan. No announcement would have been REQUIRED.

The photography rule is an arcane relic from years ago. It is largely unenforced, and I can guarantee that there would be no real consequences for a passenger who violated it. The most that would happen is a request from an F/A to cease and desist, and even that is a stretch. Fact is, there is nothing significant to photograph on either of the two corridors we fly over Cuba.

Your previous b.s. post about how failure to enforce this rule could cause US Airways to lose Cuban overfly authority shows how ignorant you are. These flights are a cash cow for the Cubans, and a cutoff of any US airline would jeopardize Cubana's rights to overfly the US while enroute to Toronto and Montreal.

You seem to think we are still operating like it is the height of the cold war. In your frantic internet searching did you happen upon the "rule" that each flight will include its Cuban overfly permit number in its initial report to Havana Center? (Sounds serious!) If you did, you might be surprised to learn that no one does so, and Havana never requests it. The only exception to this would be an inexperienced crew that is being a bit overzealous. This may apply to your NWA crew - they are not big players in the Caribbean. (Oh, sorry Lavman, there are no Cuban overfly permits on flights from the US to Cancun! Hope you didn't fall for it, expert that you are).

You couldn't possibly know that Havana Center, once unpredictable and difficult to deal with, is now easygoing and extremely accommodating. They have no interest in playing gotcha, and would probably get a good laugh out of your ridiculous, self-important posts.

 

[LCC_#1]

Guess you don't go by the FAA and US Airways of enforcing the FARs and the agreement of how US will operate the airline.

It is a regulation, agreed to by the FAA, Cuba and US Airways, go read your manual.

Failure to comply will result in loss of overfly privileges and cause US to bypass Cuba and result in more fuel burn.

Oh and by the way, its your YOU'RE job to enforce it, just like the rest of the FARs and company's policies of how to operate its flights.

Then management needs to get the word out because I have NEVER heard of this and isn't a part of the F/A manual. Yes I just reviewed the IEM (new name), Therefore it is up to the pilots to adhere and enforce such regulations and FAR's. So far, I have heard approximately 0 pilots mention ANYTHING about Cuba except "there it is".

BTW...you seem abit out of sorts. Did someone pee in your cornflakes?