Flying Fuzz

[tDawe]

MagSeal,

York is civie, Pilot/AME is an outsourced contract, Pilots wear Police uniforms though, not sure if they are some sort of "special officer"or some status like that, but they are civ. pilots on a company contract to York Region Police.

tDawe

 

[Elvis]

Considering the short time they have had the 120, how long will it be before a real police officer is the pilot?

A AMO can be contracted to look after helicopter but as stated in previous posts I can see serious problems with a non police officer pilot.

:elvis:

 

[Elvis]

Considering the short time they have had the 120, how long will it be before a real police officer is the pilot?

A AMO can be contracted to look after helicopter but as stated in previous posts I can see serious problems with a non police officer pilot.

:elvis:

 

[cap]

There is no "law" about whether the pilot must be a Member or civilian. The RCMP themselves have "waffled" back and forth with both since their start in 1971. Many of the RCMP pilots were Members at one time and left to go to civvy street. While there they became pilots and enjoyed a fairly long career in that milieu. They then decided that the pay, opportunites and/or security was better back where they had been once before and returned to "the scene of the crime" as a result. Yes there are "newbies" that are flying within the various police forces, but I know many in the RCMP Air Division and the vast majority more than "paid their dues" in our world.

Also remember that when you have to help some Peace Officer 'rassle' a prisoner onto the ground or in/out of an aircraft, you better have the legal authority to do so otherwise you just committed Assault and Battery and some smartass lawyer will try to have your butt for a trophy on his bookshelf. That's just the Crininal Code side........the prisoner can also sue you in Civil Court afterwards.

 

[downwash]

'Crininal Code' Cap? Or did you mean 'Cranial Cooed' or , mayhap, 'Carnal Coed?' 😛

Are those early mornings posts getting to be too much for an old reprobate? 😉

 

[cap]

Downwash ------ Nahhhhhh, I just lost my Thesaurus damnit. 😀 In the meantime "carnal co-ed" sounds good enough for me.

 

[graunch1]

Let's see...We are at 500 feet, over a downtown area and the rubber band breaks. Do you want a 300 hr police pilot or a 5,000 hr commercial pilot jiggling the sticks at this point in your life????

 

[beltdrive]

depends on the recurrent training, If the do there Emercency training to the ground or terminate when its gets interesting.....not big on power recovery, u r in a flight envelop where ur head should be up and not glued to the gages so u not over speed and over torque ur little honey........
If the Emercency is real ur quite focused anyways....... So if the 300 hrs guy did it always to the ground and the 5000 hrs guy never Id go for the 300 hrs guy....

 

[cap]

Graunch -------that pilot at 500' over some city or town has as many places to autorotate into (and maybe more), than I have at 500'-700' coming in to drop a Bambi bucket load of water. I usually don't fly from P/U site to drop-site at 2000' either.

 

[MagSeal]

to boot as well, most police forces are up at night for most of their flying. At least the majority of parking lots are well lit to help you drop it somewhere safe.

But in the end, I'd rather see a guy with a lean towards the flying experience more than the police side. I think it's a very rare occurance that the pilot will ever need to land and make an arrest.
Proceedures about how to fly around a site can be learned quite easily I'm sure, very similiar when you're orbiting staging waiting for a load, or looking for that lost seismic bag in the trees. I even heard that some police in the states have the aircraft totally outfitted with autopilots, press the button and your altitude, and orbit is set up over the scene for you, you're just sitting there watching the guages as you get dizzy.

 

[beltdrive]

irfrared camera would help a lot to find ur seismic bag..........

 

[Batfink]

Hey 3BX2, I haven't been around lately and just caught up today. OUCH....

WRONG Batfink, I personally know one of the pilots history, and believe me, He was a well respected Commercial pilot first and foremost, but as you say, did a bit of flat footing it on the beat to qualify for the job.

felt like I was talking wih my wife there for a second...

Constable Z..... was indeed a very good commercial pilot before strapping on the Glock - but he did join the EPS before they bought the flaming chicken.

I know all of the police pilots in YXD. Great guys with a nice machine (although the 120 is alot quieter than an 206, it still wakes me up at night...)

Cheers!

 

[MagSeal]

Maybe the first 10 times of being woke, you'd be appreciative that the bad guys are at least being deterred from messing around in your neighbourhood.
I can see though if it's happening everynight it could be a problem. Imagine you live in Niagara Falls and there's 407's screaming by your house all day everyday....You might appreciate the occasional 120 fly by a bit more.

 

[jetbox]

Maybe the first 10 times of being woke, you'd be appreciative that the bad guys are at least being deterred from messing around in your neighbourhood.

Unfortunately, from my experience, if the flying copper is doing circles over your neibourhood, he's not so much "deterring" the bad guys as much as he is chasing them!!!
It's usually not a good thing if the copper chopper is spending a lot of time above your domain!!!
I still prefer to live in a city that has an air unit than one that doesn't!

 

[cap]

Don't forget the original reason for most of the purchases of helicopters by police forces. The primary reason was the public outrage over high-speed chases through cities and their sometimes resultant mayhem. Regardless of what you are driving or how fancy a driver you are, the odds against you out-running the police are slim to say the best, once they get sight of you. If you even manage to hide that vehicle and stay hidden yourself, they have a much better idea of where you are now than they did before if they lost you during a chase on the ground.