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France best, U.S. worst in preventable deaths

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While it is unnerving to think of the process involved with denying claims, just imagine the additional costs that would be passsed to the consumer if such actuaries did not exist to deny claims - - particularly the novel or frivolous types.

I could live with a "users tax" as you put it... that would put more of the burden on the people who may live unhealthy lifestyles. It also may create an incentive to live a healthier lifestyle, thereby potentially lowering the costs of a health care system.

As with all plans, the pragmatics are frustrating.


Yes but when a young girl dies because treatment was denied until shortly before she died something needs to be changed. Insurance companies need to be held accountable. Money should never be a factor when determining care. When a persons life is at stake, you do what is necessary. The fact that she was allowed to die with out a fight is criminal in my eyes.

I pay premiums so that if something happens, they will pay for it. Odds are I and American will pay more to them than I will ever take out. If you are going to get into the Ins business, you have to realize that there will be times when you have to pay out.
 
The problem is that many of the doctors who review the claims are not experts in the areas that they are second guessing the treating physicians:

Los Angeles Times - Is this a healthy way to choose who gets care?
Highlights:
Monica Blumenfield, a longtime employee of the Long Beach Unified School District, is such a person. She was turned down for coverage of physical therapy for work-related nerve damage and for an MRI scan related to earlier treatment for breast cancer.

Her insurer, Blue Shield, said the decisions were reviewed by the company's medical director. But this wasn't a doctor experienced in either physical therapy or oncology. It was a Northern California osteopathic physician who lists his specialty as pulmonary disorders such as bronchitis and asthma.

"The doctor who reviewed my case wasn't qualified to make these decisions," Blumenfield, 50, told me. "Basically, Blue Shield tried to deceive me."

Blue Shield said the treatment had been reviewed "by an independent physical therapy specialist."

A separate letter to Blumenfield's clinic, Movement Works Physical Therapy Inc., stated that the treatment was "reviewed for medical necessity by Alan Brooker, D.O., medical director for Blue Shield of California."

Brooker is not a member of the American Medical Assn., according to the organization's website. But the site lists him as a nonmember and identifies his specialty as pulmonary disease, or lung-related disorders.

About a month after Blue Shield rejected Blumenfield's physical-therapy appeal, she received another letter from the insurance company saying it wouldn't cover MRIs related to her breast cancer, even though it had done so without apparent difficulty for the previous three years.

The letter said the scans were considered "investigational or experimental" and as such were "not in accord with Blue Shield of California medical policy." The letter was signed by Brooker.

Dr. Alan Sokolow, the company's chief medical officer, said doctors who sign off on denials of coverage typically consulted first with specialists.

"We employ a lot of medical directors who have a variety of medical expertise but who rely on the expertise of others trained in a specific area," he said.
 
France vs USA??? France is about ther size of the state of NY and may have a population of Texas. They are a retarded society that have skyrocketing healthcare because the doctors milk the government. This leads to a week-10 days mandatory hospitalization. Yeah been there done that!

Then a question of common sense that seems to be missing is...How many arrogant Americans feel that their health is good and they don't need to seek a doctor's advice? Maybe Frenchys suffer more from hypocondriac syndrome and tend to seek help over stupid BS that eventually results in a bulls-eye!

Why not ask the Frenchys why most of their doctors were and are trained in the US at AMERICA'S best colleges and universities.

Yeah, let's sleep and look at the one-sided equation. I look at the whole and remember the past for the better of our future!
 
France vs USA??? France is about ther size of the state of NY and may have a population of Texas. They are a retarded society that have skyrocketing healthcare because the doctors milk the government. This leads to a week-10 days mandatory hospitalization. Yeah been there done that!

Then a question of common sense that seems to be missing is...How many arrogant Americans feel that their health is good and they don't need to seek a doctor's advice? Maybe Frenchys suffer more from hypocondriac syndrome and tend to seek help over stupid BS that eventually results in a bulls-eye!

Why not ask the Frenchys why most of their doctors were and are trained in the US at AMERICA'S best colleges and universities.

Yeah, let's sleep and look at the one-sided equation. I look at the whole and remember the past for the better of our future!
So signals...I take it you feel the current US Health Care system is the best in the world?

If anything, judging from your post, the French people have free health care provided by some of the best trained doctors in the world. I just wonder though...did they learn to "milk the system" while they were here?
 
France vs USA??? France is about ther size of the state of NY and may have a population of Texas. They are a retarded society that have skyrocketing healthcare because the doctors milk the government. This leads to a week-10 days mandatory hospitalization. Yeah been there done that!

Then a question of common sense that seems to be missing is...How many arrogant Americans feel that their health is good and they don't need to seek a doctor's advice? Maybe Frenchys suffer more from hypocondriac syndrome and tend to seek help over stupid BS that eventually results in a bulls-eye!

Why not ask the Frenchys why most of their doctors were and are trained in the US at AMERICA'S best colleges and universities.

Yeah, let's sleep and look at the one-sided equation. I look at the whole and remember the past for the better of our future!


Let me guess, facts are just a irritation for you aren't they?

FYI, the population of France is about 61 million in France proper and 63 million if you include their territories. It's just a little bit bigger than TX in terms of population.

As for the physical size of the country it is actually nearly 12 times bigger than NY at 551,000 sq miles. TX is only 261,000 sq miles so you were not off by much .. OK yes you were. I was trying to be nice but you were not even in the ball park. I can see why you are such a fan of W. You and he have the same view point and grasp of the concept of a fact.

As for the rest of your rant, I do not see anything more accurate than the above errors so I won't waste my time.
 

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