Gasoline up 100% under Obama

[dapoes]

Feeling pain at the pump?

Gas prices have doubled since Mr. Obama took office. According to the GasBuddy gasoline price tracking web site, the price of a gallon of regular gas was around $1.79 when Mr. Obama took office. Today the national average is $3.58. The lowest average price in the continental United States is $3.31 in Tulsa Oklahoma, the highest is $4.14 in Santa Barbara, CA. Four-dollar-a-gallon gas has arrived on average throughout California, and a number of other states are headed in that direction.

The solution? Oh yeah, "we need to get them electric cars out there."

 

[SparrowHawk]

You know this is the type of "Fact" that stretches credibility very very thin IMO. Obama is a putz, but you really can't lay this one at his feet.

Gas prices have doubled and the same thing happened under Bush. Blaming any POTUS for this fiasco is just not fair, besides which there are plenty more things to blame on this jackass. The incursion into Libya being among the first that comes to mind after the pending Health Care debacle.

Speculators make money by speculating on various things. One being the price of oil. That's why they're called speculators and not POTUS. They were here before Obama Lama Ding Dong and they will be here afterward.

The single biggest thing the average person can do is drive less which is exactly what happened last time we hit $4/gal and poof like magic the price dropped. If you heat your house with oil turn down the thermostat and strike a blow for Liberty. We stop buying the crap land the speculators lose their assets a few times you'll see less speculation and lower more stable prices, maybe even under $2/gal.

Do the math. we have about 100 million cars out there. Each car uses two gallons less per week and we flip the bird to Obama, Exxon, the Arabs and their terrorist cohorts and save your hard earned disposable income. Take you significant other out to dinner at the Olive Garden 10 miles away instead of the Red Lobster 20 miles away and use the Eight bucks you saved and buy her dessert, hell you might even get lucky 😀 while striking a blow for liberty. Better yet invite her over and YOU cook dinner and use no gasoline.

My point is that it's not terribly difficult to drive out 10 to 30 percent of your fuel costs if you plan things out. Like one trip per week to the supermarket. Arrange car pools if you're the soccer mom type. You get the idea, Now go save some money and fight the Man!!!

 

[dapoes]

Well I don't recall gas reaching near $5 a gallon under bush. Ever. When prices started to spike Bush released oil leases to encourage more domestic output and as a result the prices dropped.

Obama is doing everything he can to choke off domestic output. So this spike in gas prices can be directly blamed on him.

 

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Bush On $4 Gas: "I Hadn't Heard That" 03-28-08

During a White House news conference Thursday morning, President Bush said the country is not headed into a recession, noting that the government has acted "robustly." His view of the economy, however, is far more chipper than that of many economists, who fear the country is entering a recession (or may even already be in one. In fact, when asked by a reporter about what advice he'd given an average American, who is faced by the prospect of $4 gallon gas, the President responded: "That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. ... I know it's high now."

:wacko: :wacko:

 

[leprechaun]

Obama is doing everything he can to choke off domestic output. So this spike in gas prices can be directly blamed on him.

Of course it has nothing to do with the unrest in the middle east right now, right?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Of course it has nothing to do with the unrest in the middle east right now, right?

A whole lot less then you may think. Speculators thrive on news, good or bad and they place their bets on what the market will do. Most times the end result is a run up on price. Obama could wave his magic wand tomorrow and POOF we have 5 percent unemployment, a balanced budget and strong GDP growth and the speculators would spin that into an oil shortage to drive up prices.

Oil goes up due in large part recently to speculators trying to manipulate the market to their benefit. It only works short term as eventually the laws of supply and demand correct the price. However in the mean time the average Joe & Jane take it the shorts and looks for someone to blame. The problem is the "Usual Suspects" Bush & Barack aren't culpable. No these liars, cheats and thieves live in the back rooms of Wall Street and many other cities around the world with their task being to milk every last nickle, shilling, peso, euro & Yen they can out of the worlds population with out care one for the destruction they cause. It's against the law to kill'em so what can we do?

 

[777 fixer]

We as Americans might want to look in the mirror before we try and blame who ever is in the White House. Back in 2008 when gas prices spiked people started trading in their trucks and SUV's for more fuel efficent cars. Guess what happened when prices went down? Sales of trucks and SUV's started to go back up.

 

[dapoes]

Unbelievable how some of you revert back to the SUV's etc., argument. How are trains going to move product? On batteries? How planes going to shuttle people and product? More batteries? How are freight trucks going to shuffle product into the stores? More batteries.

Your arguments show how ignorant most of you are. Embarrassing.

 

[Ms Tree]

As said above, the POTUS does not have jack to do with the gas prices. Bush was not responsible for the record prices during his term nor is Obama.

What I do hold the presidents and Cong responsible for (as well as Joe Q Public) is not investing more in alternative fuels and transportation. Natural gas is plentiful. There is no reason all trucks and mot cars should not already be on LP or NG. The cut in oil usage right there is substantial. Homes should be on a combo of solar wind and hydro. Freight trains could be changed over to electric. I believe they already started to run test on jets to run on a bi fuel mixture.

When we had the first gas crisis under Carter he said we need to start weening our selves off the nasty stuff. Unfortunately gas prices went down and we reverted back to our old nasty habits. Same happened after the gas spike under Bush and I suspect if the gas prices drop now we will do the same.

BTW, domestic oil out put has remained pretty stable since 2003. So far, 2010 had the highest out put since 2003 but from what I have read it will decrease a very small amount over the next few years. So even with the moratorium in the Gulf oil production was still higher.

We have met the enemy and he is us. There is so much that we could have done and should do but we choose not to. Who's fault is that?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Unbelievable how some of you revert back to the SUV's etc., argument. How are trains going to move product? On batteries? How planes going to shuttle people and product? More batteries? How are freight trucks going to shuffle product into the stores? More batteries.

Your arguments show how ignorant most of you are. Embarrassing.

As an aside to one of your least lucid rants, I wonder if anyone has ever seen the environmental disaster a nickel mine is?

I mention it because most of the hybrid batteries contain large amounts of nickel.

Electric cars should be part of the conservation mix IMO, however they are neither a panacea nor a Pandora's Box. If we use coal & oil to generate the electricity might it be the case that we would have a net gain in pollutants or has no one asked the question? Factor in the environmental disaster that is a nickel mine and are we really helping the environment or is this just more government BS thrown at us?

 

[leprechaun]

Perhaps, instead of spending trillions to protect the oil companies interest in the middle east, we could use that money for alternative energy development.

 

[delldude]

You know this is the type of "Fact" that stretches credibility very very thin IMO. Obama is a putz, but you really can't lay this one at his feet.

Gas prices have doubled and the same thing happened under Bush. Blaming any POTUS for this fiasco is just not fair, besides which there are plenty more things to blame on this jackass. The incursion into Libya being among the first that comes to mind after the pending Health Care debacle.

Speculators make money by speculating on various things. One being the price of oil. That's why they're called speculators and not POTUS. They were here before Obama Lama Ding Dong and they will be here afterward.

The single biggest thing the average person can do is drive less which is exactly what happened last time we hit $4/gal and poof like magic the price dropped. If you heat your house with oil turn down the thermostat and strike a blow for Liberty. We stop buying the crap land the speculators lose their assets a few times you'll see less speculation and lower more stable prices, maybe even under $2/gal.

Do the math. we have about 100 million cars out there. Each car uses two gallons less per week and we flip the bird to Obama, Exxon, the Arabs and their terrorist cohorts and save your hard earned disposable income. Take you significant other out to dinner at the Olive Garden 10 miles away instead of the Red Lobster 20 miles away and use the Eight bucks you saved and buy her dessert, hell you might even get lucky 😀 while striking a blow for liberty. Better yet invite her over and YOU cook dinner and use no gasoline.

My point is that it's not terribly difficult to drive out 10 to 30 percent of your fuel costs if you plan things out. Like one trip per week to the supermarket. Arrange car pools if you're the soccer mom type. You get the idea, Now go save some money and fight the Man!!!

You should reflect on the moment, faced with a dem controlled congress and no hope of expanded off shore drilling, Bush declared the intent to drill....if I remember correctly, just the intent of the US expanding offshore and on land drilling screwed up the futures speculators and dropped gas prices by a fair amount.

So where Obama?

He wants to get re-elected, oil drilling would provide happy campers in the gulf oil states, plus provide an economic stimulus for the country across the board. His green weenie faction will cry foul. Apparently economic recovery isn't on the radar.Most of his base already are freaked out with some of his many questionable actions as Prez......

I personally know a couple platform drillers who are now in the Pa/WVA area training on Marcellus Shale. They'd rather be in the gulf....one dude went to West Guinea for a month on stint.....on an offshore platform....tell me he going vote Obammy?

 

[777 fixer]

It's funny how some of the reactionary morons start froothing at the mouth the instant you mention SUV's. They bring up the tired argument "What about planes and traind, what are you going to run them on?" That's really not the issue, if they had half a brain they would have figured that out. The issue is efficency. Dell can back me up on this, commerical airliners have become more efficent since the first 707 started service. The 777-300 is 40% more efficent than the 747 classics it has replaced by many Asian airlines. What do you think the 787 and A350 are all about?

So why is it the same people who talk about personal responsibility are the same ones who dismiss any responsiiblity of the American people in all this? Do they think all we have to do is just drill for more oil? All one has to dois look up how much oil would be saved if we drove more fuel efficent cars.

 

[dapoes]

It's funny how some of the reactionary morons start froothing at the mouth the instant you mention SUV's. They bring up the tired argument "What about planes and traind, what are you going to run them on?" That's really not the issue, if they had half a brain they would have figured that out. The issue is efficency. Dell can back me up on this, commerical airliners have become more efficent since the first 707 started service. The 777-300 is 40% more efficent than the 747 classics it has replaced by many Asian airlines. What do you think the 787 and A350 are all about?

So why is it the same people who talk about personal responsibility are the same ones who dismiss any responsiiblity of the American people in all this? Do they think all we have to do is just drill for more oil? All one has to dois look up how much oil would be saved if we drove more fuel efficent cars.

Why don't you share that hard data with us then? What is deemed efficient over non efficient, avg gasoline usage, miles driven, etc. How are you going to dispose of the old and replace with the new?

You cant because you pulled out of your rear to back up a nonsensical rebuttal. You have the same pathetic pie in the sky idea all our oil needs will be met just by checking the air in your tire are some mythical fuel efficient car data or something...as to which was already tried by your dear leader Obama with cash for clunkers. It didn't go well either. Cash for Clunkers cost taxpayers $24k per car, not $4k.

Any other bright ideas?

Didnt think so...Next!

 

[dapoes]