Getting away with it

[graunch1]

I see today that the US Govt is not going to Court Martial the two Lawn Dart pilots who killed the PPCLI guys in Afghanistan. Of course if they did that then they would have to make some sort of accounting for the 140 or so friendlies (mostly US grunts) that they killed with friendly fire in the Gulf War.

 

[graunch1]

I see today that the US Govt is not going to Court Martial the two Lawn Dart pilots who killed the PPCLI guys in Afghanistan. Of course if they did that then they would have to make some sort of accounting for the 140 or so friendlies (mostly US grunts) that they killed with friendly fire in the Gulf War.

 

[clear to go?]

I cringe at the thought of the tables being turned. How might this have played out if it were Canadian bombs that killed Americans on the ground?

It''s an example of just how much these crews are responsible for. Goof up on the job with a Navajo and you might be looking for work. Goof up serving your country, making a decision that you feel is correct and necessary, and there''s plenty more to listen to.

I can''t make any sense out of it. Just something that I thought about throughout the whole thing.

 

[clear to go?]

I cringe at the thought of the tables being turned. How might this have played out if it were Canadian bombs that killed Americans on the ground?

It''s an example of just how much these crews are responsible for. Goof up on the job with a Navajo and you might be looking for work. Goof up serving your country, making a decision that you feel is correct and necessary, and there''s plenty more to listen to.

I can''t make any sense out of it. Just something that I thought about throughout the whole thing.

 

[sharky]

What boggles my mind the most is one of thier primary rules of engagement...''if you encounter hostile fire, leave the area immediately''

But through this investigation, that has kind of fallen by the wayside. Had that directive been obeyed....

 

[sharky]

What boggles my mind the most is one of thier primary rules of engagement...''if you encounter hostile fire, leave the area immediately''

But through this investigation, that has kind of fallen by the wayside. Had that directive been obeyed....

 

[Winnie]

I''m sorry for Canada''s loss,
and mindboggled that one can get away with something like that. It certainly resembles the case fom the last gulf war (after it ended) when F-15s shot down two black hawk helicopters, or that case in Italy when a Porwler crew, flew through and brought down a gondola in an area not approved for low level!
The brotherhood is too strong for sure!

 

[Winnie]

I''m sorry for Canada''s loss,
and mindboggled that one can get away with something like that. It certainly resembles the case fom the last gulf war (after it ended) when F-15s shot down two black hawk helicopters, or that case in Italy when a Porwler crew, flew through and brought down a gondola in an area not approved for low level!
The brotherhood is too strong for sure!

 

[Commodore64]

can anyone tell me what stage of the tour of duty these 2 guys were in? Were they about to go home?

I''ve had a feeling since the day it happened these guys were about to go home without dropping any ordinance during their tour and were pretty much begging for an excuse to engage the enemy...

 

[Commodore64]

can anyone tell me what stage of the tour of duty these 2 guys were in? Were they about to go home?

I''ve had a feeling since the day it happened these guys were about to go home without dropping any ordinance during their tour and were pretty much begging for an excuse to engage the enemy...

 

[cap]

The military careers of the pilots in question are over. They still face internal reviews. It's now out of the public 'eye', that's all.

Tread very, very carefully in this area gents. Canada has it's own record with 'blue on blue' and my own father was part of one particular incident with the RCAF. We can definitely 'throw rocks' at the US pilots, but we have to keep them small in size as our own history shows that we also live in a 'glass house'. Again, do not interpret this as a defense of these pilots.......just a caution to read our own history first before 'throwing those rocks'. Further, as a matter of historical fact, we have indeed bombed American troops during WW2. We don't write books about it, but the facts remain on record. Then again, we don't write books about deserters of the Canadian forces during WW2. What country celebrates it's mistakes?

 

[cap]

The military careers of the pilots in question are over. They still face internal reviews. It's now out of the public 'eye', that's all.

Tread very, very carefully in this area gents. Canada has it's own record with 'blue on blue' and my own father was part of one particular incident with the RCAF. We can definitely 'throw rocks' at the US pilots, but we have to keep them small in size as our own history shows that we also live in a 'glass house'. Again, do not interpret this as a defense of these pilots.......just a caution to read our own history first before 'throwing those rocks'. Further, as a matter of historical fact, we have indeed bombed American troops during WW2. We don't write books about it, but the facts remain on record. Then again, we don't write books about deserters of the Canadian forces during WW2. What country celebrates it's mistakes?

 

[downwash]

I don''t care much for celebrating them, cap, but I sure wish we''d learn from them.

 

[downwash]

I don''t care much for celebrating them, cap, but I sure wish we''d learn from them.

 

[cap]

If we learned from our mistakes there wouldn''t have been a WW1, followed by a WW2.