HDQ Employees
- Thread starter AirwAr
- Start date
a cat fight for the corner offices? I haven't witnessed one successful merger in this business. In the end, it was always us and them as employees identified who came from where. And the never ending discussions of - "well we never did it that way at..(fill in the blank).....".
It took years to try and smoothly integrate everyone. By the time you thought you had actually made some progress....wham, more cha nge as more heads were cut and positions consolidated.
It took years to try and smoothly integrate everyone. By the time you thought you had actually made some progress....wham, more cha nge as more heads were cut and positions consolidated.
simco aircraft
Newbie
- Joined
- Jun 3, 2008
- Messages
- 7
- Reaction score
- 0
At the Air-Cal/AA merger I was told that you are going to be one of the "team". You will blend in. That's why my employee no. has 10 in front of it. Thanks for nothing. I see this merger going the same way.
eolesen
Veteran
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2003
- Messages
- 15,959
- Reaction score
- 9,375
I'd guess that about 1 out of every 3 workers classified as HDQ will lose their jobs one way or another.
Retirement will be an option for some, and there is no shortage of people 50 and over who would take an early out. Some jobs in Tempe will move to Fort Worth, and not everyone will want to (or will be able to) move.
1) Try to remember that easily half of those folks earn less than what a crew chief does.
2) Not everyone counts beans. Some do flight scheduling, IT, order toilet paper and market bags, negotiate for landing slots, haggle with credit card providers, respond to complaints, make sure you get paid each week, try to make sure that fares are being filed & matched, deal with the TSA, FAA, OSHA, DOL, DOT, and probably another 20 or 30 government and state agencies I can't recall...
I'd expect a lot of those who were going to leave voluntarily have already done so, to beat the rush.
Sabre's been doing a lot of silent recruiting over the past six to eight months; I suspect that's going to slow down considerably after today, especially if there's doubt over staying with Sabre. There's obviously no love lost between US and them on old history, and no shortage of lawsuits involving both AA and US with Sabre from the past few years.
So, while all you union people dance on Tom Horton's proverbial grave, remember that there are going to be probably 2000+ people who you never see that will affected by this. 2000+ more people who may or may not be able to find a job in Obama's economy.
Half can probably find a comparable job in another industry, but a good number of them will have spent their entire career working for an airline, and that's an ever shrinking job market.
Retirement will be an option for some, and there is no shortage of people 50 and over who would take an early out. Some jobs in Tempe will move to Fort Worth, and not everyone will want to (or will be able to) move.
1) Try to remember that easily half of those folks earn less than what a crew chief does.
2) Not everyone counts beans. Some do flight scheduling, IT, order toilet paper and market bags, negotiate for landing slots, haggle with credit card providers, respond to complaints, make sure you get paid each week, try to make sure that fares are being filed & matched, deal with the TSA, FAA, OSHA, DOL, DOT, and probably another 20 or 30 government and state agencies I can't recall...
I'd expect a lot of those who were going to leave voluntarily have already done so, to beat the rush.
Sabre's been doing a lot of silent recruiting over the past six to eight months; I suspect that's going to slow down considerably after today, especially if there's doubt over staying with Sabre. There's obviously no love lost between US and them on old history, and no shortage of lawsuits involving both AA and US with Sabre from the past few years.
So, while all you union people dance on Tom Horton's proverbial grave, remember that there are going to be probably 2000+ people who you never see that will affected by this. 2000+ more people who may or may not be able to find a job in Obama's economy.
Half can probably find a comparable job in another industry, but a good number of them will have spent their entire career working for an airline, and that's an ever shrinking job market.
E.
I'll dance over Horton and a few others leaving, but I do have sympathy for others that will have their lives affected by the merger. Many are good, talented people, but had little to do with the culture and the direction of the company that led us to where we are.
They aren't getting 13.5% or protected from layoffs by seniority.
Hopefully we can get to a place where there is equal concern for other employees not working in the same cockpit, cubicle, galley, hangar, boardroom or ready room. That is a big problem here and it affects the bottom line.
I'll dance over Horton and a few others leaving, but I do have sympathy for others that will have their lives affected by the merger. Many are good, talented people, but had little to do with the culture and the direction of the company that led us to where we are.
They aren't getting 13.5% or protected from layoffs by seniority.
Hopefully we can get to a place where there is equal concern for other employees not working in the same cockpit, cubicle, galley, hangar, boardroom or ready room. That is a big problem here and it affects the bottom line.
AA was giving out 6 digit employee numbers before the AirCal aquisition. They had run out of 5 digit ones.
Yeah, I just missed getting a 5 digit employee # and got a 6 digit. That was April 1987
