Hope and Change 2010

[delldude]

Uh, not so much.

If he was, we'd have had things EFCA and a public option a LONG time ago.

The right likes to shriek that Obama is some sort of modern day Bolshevik, but the fact is he's just as tied to the corporate teat as anyone else- R or D. The right decries him for being too left, and the left is pissed because he isn't left *enough.* Can't say I envy the man...

But having most of his inner circle with Socialist/Communist roots is of no consequence?

To my progressive friends, I would remind you that for decades, the driving idea behind reform has been to end insurance company abuses and make coverage available for those without it.

His friends?? From the joint session 9-9-09

 

[Kev3188]

But having most of his inner circle with Socialist/Communist roots is of no consequence?

Like who? These guys?



"Larry Summers, the man behind nearly every disastrous policy that created the crisis, fresh from making $20 million from hedge funds and investment banks while at Harvard, to become the director of the National Economic Council; Tim Geithner, plucked from the New York Federal Reserve Bank and put in charge at Treasury; as Geithner's chief of staff, Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist; to succeed Geithner at the New York Fed, William C. Dudley, who was chief economist of Goldman Sachs during the housing bubble years; Michael Froman, straight from Citigroup Alternative Investments, which lost billions while its executives became rich, to coordinate economic policy for the National Security Council; Jacob Lew, who was the CFO of Citigroup Alternative Investments, as deputy secretary of state (and now, Obama's nominee to run the Office of Management and Budget); Gary Gensler, a former Goldman executive who helped ban the regulation of over-the-counter derivatives, to lead the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates derivatives; Mary Shapiro, former head of the Financial Industry Regulatory Agency, the investment banking industry's self-policing body, to run the Securities and Exchange Commission; reappointing Ben Bernanke. And on and on."

 

[dapoes]

More juicy repercussions for the Liberal Progressive Marxists....

‘Net Neutrality Protectors’ Swept Away by Midterm Wave

Ninety-five Democratic Congressional hopefuls signed last week a pledge to support the Federal Communications Commissions proposed Net neutrality rules. On Tuesday, all ninety-five “net neutrality protectors” lost to their Republican opponents. 😱

 

[Kev3188]

I can understand given your political preferences why you'd cheer 95 Dems. losing their spots, but you're not advocating against net neutrality are you?

 

[dapoes]

I can understand given your political preferences why you'd cheer 95 Dems. losing their spots, but you're not advocating against net neutrality are you?

Yes absolutely. The term "Net Neutrality" is a mis-nomer. Government control is not neutral. In an environment where ordinary folks can barely understand the issue, and congressmen even less, legislation is a bad idea. Even if it’s well-intentioned, legislation that attempts to control the course of technological development can have unintended consequences down the line.

 

[Kev3188]

Yes absolutely. The term "Net Neutrality" is a mis-nomer. Government control is not neutral. In an environment where ordinary folks can barely understand the issue, and congressmen even less, legislation is a bad idea. Even if it’s well-intentioned, legislation that attempts to control the course of technological development can have unintended consequences down the line.

... So can corporations having a stranglehold on any form of media. We've seen it already with the Telecommunications act of 1996 (another example of a D kowtowing to big business).

 

[dapoes]

... So can corporations having a stranglehold on any form of media. We've seen it already with the Telecommunications act of 1996 (another example of a D kowtowing to big business).

There is no "stranglehold" of anything happening with the net. What would happen if net neutrality were to pass? Washington would be flooded by lobbyist and so called (special interest backed) committees who would serve no purpose other then to sway the rules to their favor. There goes innovation, competition, service and privacy.

 

[dapoes]

There is still "hope and change" left for Liberals....in Canada!

Americans Sneaking Into Canada in Record Numbers

The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The recent actions of the Tea Party are prompting an exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and to agree with Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck.

Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night.

😀

 

[delldude]

Like who? These guys?



"Larry Summers, the man behind nearly every disastrous policy that created the crisis, fresh from making $20 million from hedge funds and investment banks while at Harvard, to become the director of the National Economic Council; Tim Geithner, plucked from the New York Federal Reserve Bank and put in charge at Treasury; as Geithner's chief of staff, Mark Patterson, a former Goldman Sachs lobbyist; to succeed Geithner at the New York Fed, William C. Dudley, who was chief economist of Goldman Sachs during the housing bubble years; Michael Froman, straight from Citigroup Alternative Investments, which lost billions while its executives became rich, to coordinate economic policy for the National Security Council; Jacob Lew, who was the CFO of Citigroup Alternative Investments, as deputy secretary of state (and now, Obama's nominee to run the Office of Management and Budget); Gary Gensler, a former Goldman executive who helped ban the regulation of over-the-counter derivatives, to lead the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates derivatives; Mary Shapiro, former head of the Financial Industry Regulatory Agency, the investment banking industry's self-policing body, to run the Securities and Exchange Commission; reappointing Ben Bernanke. And on and on."

Good point.....Goldman Sachs runs Fed and Treasury, isn't that odd? You don't find that odd?



Like who? these guys?

😱 😱 😱

 

[Dog Wonder]

In 2012? Obama will be history. That you can guarantee.

Meet your new 2012 president!

Cut him off, please don't let him drive..

 

[nicky guy]

Obviously you can get credit for being the "Party of NO" when your in the minority.

Now lets see if they get credit for(surely) being the "Party of NO" while being in the Majority !

Hmmmm ?

 

[dapoes]

Obviously you can get credit for being the "Party of NO" when your in the minority.

Now lets see if they get credit for(surely) being the "Party of NO" while being in the Majority !

Hmmmm ?

Voters tell the newly-elected House majority: Don't just stand there, undo something! Interesting that folks say Tea Party stopped GOP from gaining more seats. Um GOP had historic gains BECAUSE of TeaParty not in spite of them

 

[delldude]

Obviously you can get credit for being the "Party of NO" when your in the minority.

Now lets see if they get credit for(surely) being the "Party of NO" while being in the Majority !

Hmmmm ?

That will be no to the Obama agenda.

Or do you think Obama and his policies are good for the country? (And I don't mean China)

 

[nicky guy]

That will be no to the Obama agenda.

Or do you think Obama and his policies are good for the country? (And I don't mean China)

Well Dell...maybe, then again maybe not(to the BO agenda)

The last 2 elections 08' and 10' "boiled down" to the " I " voter (in 08' they went with BO, in 10' they went against him).

People want to see (some progress) !

Here's how I would play it Dell, if I were BO.

1. go on TV with an address to the public( in actuality the " I " voter, and proclaim that you know they want change, and he'll do his best to meet them 1/2 way.

2. Keep them constantly updated(I'd do it every 2 weeks)

3. Tell them what you GAVe to them

4. Tell them what you tried Hard to reach common ground on.

5. Point out every time they said "NO"

Keep in mind he's STILL got the Bully Pulpit, and it wouldn't be to hard to give the GOP enough rope to hang themselves with.

A. I'd agree TOMORROW to extend the GWB tax cuts for 2 years( to expire just before the election in 12')

B. If small business THEN doesn't hire, .... OR the Banks keep up their CRAP of no lending,.....................Dump it squarely in the GOP'S LAP just before the 12' election !!!!!!!!!
Remember I said days earlier....."Be careful what you wish for" (US House Majority)


PS,
And pray like HOLY Heck that the GOP nominate Palin/Gingrich or Barbour in 12' .
(Net result...."4 More Years" !)

 

[delldude]

Only one slight problem with your suggestion. His ego won't let him go that route, period.

Why you want four more years of this clown taking your bank account and dollar value to the outhouse?

You that blind?

Seriously think about going Tea Party.