How about another "Occupy" protest

[Seatacus]

Save the Jesus statue

I am not sure if this will draw the same kind of people as the Wall Street occupiers.

 

[Ms Tree]

The statue is on Federal land. If people want to keep it, move it to private land. Not sure what the big deal is.

 

[southwind]

This statue has been there for 56 years, so what the hell is the issue ?

My bad, apparently libtards are now in charge of the Flathead National Forest !

How 'bout I start a campaign to purchase the 25x25 parcel , the statue uses..............would love to see them squirm !

 

[Seatacus]

It would be interesting if they could find out the percentage of people that want to keep it there and those that don't. Wouldn't it be funny if it was 99% vs. 1%?

 

[Ms Tree]

If you can buy the land as well as access and maintenance go for it. At that point it is private land and you can do with it as you choose.

How long the statue has been there is not relevant. The only exception I can think of is if the statue was there before the Fees aquited the land. It is still federal land. Federal land is paid for and maintained by tax payer money. That means it uses my money as well as yours. So if you get to have a statue of Jesus on land that I help pay for then the KKK can have a statue of their choosing right beside the Jesus statue. Same goes for the Wicca, Satanic and any other believe system you can think of.

Federal land is for everyone, not some select group. The 14th amendment is quite clear. Laws must apply to everyone equally. Christians are not more equal then the KKK or skin heads or anyone else.

 

[delldude]

When Islam overcomes all this crap will be moot, including Atheism and homosexuals which will be erradicated.

Allah Ahkbar!

 

[Ms Tree]

In the mean time how about we discuss the issue at hand instead of some tin foil conspiracy?

 

[Seatacus]

It is still federal land. Federal land is paid for and maintained by tax payer money. That means it uses my money as well as yours.

Are you sure about this? I believe the land was leased. The ski resort is probably leased land also. I don't believe our tax dollars are maintaining that land. If they are I want to ski for free.


Flathead National Forest declined to renew a lease permit for a 25-by-25-foot parcel of land at Whitefish Mountain Resort, where the statue has stood since 1955

 

[delldude]

In the mean time how about we discuss the issue at hand instead of some tin foil conspiracy?

Cracks me up is how you get all twisted up over this non issue. Spending YOUR tax dollar on a statue of some religious connotation.....LOL
Who cares??

 

[Ms Tree]

Cracks me up is how you get all twisted up over this non issue. Spending YOUR tax dollar on a statue of some religious connotation.....LOL
Who cares??

Of course you dont get it. You never do.

This is about precedent. This is about a slippery slope. If the Fed allows one person or group to use public land for private use then everyone must be envied to the same right. If they can have the statue then I can have one as well as everyone else. Some of those statues may be perfectly acceptable but I can assure you mine will not be just to make a point.

Thus is federal land owned by all of us. If the land was leased the land may be used in accordance with tbe least contract. Once the lease is up and it reverts back to the Fed it should go back to its original state. The statue should have been removed.

I seem to recall that you made a stink about having Muslim foot wash facilities in an airport. Same thing. Those facilities should never have been put in a federal building.

 

[delldude]

Of course you dont get it. You never do.

This is about precedent. This is about a slippery slope. If the Fed allows one person or group to use public land for private use then everyone must be envied to the same right. If they can have the statue then I can have one as well as everyone else. Some of those statues may be perfectly acceptable but I can assure you mine will not be just to make a point.

Thus is federal land owned by all of us. If the land was leased the land may be used in accordance with tbe least contract. Once the lease is up and it reverts back to the Fed it should go back to its original state. The statue should have been removed.

I seem to recall that you made a stink about having Muslim foot wash facilities in an airport. Same thing. Those facilities should never have been put in a federal building.

But it is a miniscule amount of the federal budget. You can't handle a small portion of the fed tax dollar going there?

 

[Ms Tree]

But it is a miniscule amount of the federal budget. You can't handle a small portion of the fed tax dollar going there?

Good grief Dell. The amount has nothing to do with it. If you walk into Best Buy and with an add that ended yesterday do you expect them to honor it? No. It is over. It's a dead line. If they honor it for you becaause you are only one day late why should I not be able to walk in 2 days and get it? How about 3 days? No. The dead line was today and that is that.

Again the amount is irrelevant. This is Federal land being used for a religious purpose. Aside from the fact that it is a clear violation of the 1st amendment it is also a violation of the 14th amendment because everyone else can not get a pieces of Federal land and put up their statues. Violating the COTUS is like being 'kind of pregnant' It does not work.

As for the cost issue, lets say that cost does matter. Where do you draw the line since you have already crossed it? Are you going to let every group who now wants a statue to put one up at the same cost to the tax payer? What if the next statue costs a bit more, after all, like you said it's only a few dollars. Whats the big deal? What about the group after that? Where are you going to draw the line and how are you going to do it legally since you have already made exceptions?

A professor of mine said something that has always stuck with me. "The moment you make one exception, it becomes and expectation". It's better not to make any exceptions and stick with the rule of law so that everyone gets treated equally.

So either someone buys the land and pays for access, upkeep and all that goes with it or the statue gets removed from Federal pubic tax payer funded land. If it does not, then I want to put up my statue. You take your pick.

I have more, some not fit to post here but I think you get the point.

 

[southwind]

I say renew the lease, grandfather in the existing statue and tell all others , "Sorry, but we no longer accept applications for statue parcels !" Wouldn't want to clutter up the property with unwanted eyesores !

 

[southwind]

Can I declare Jihad on yer ass Tree, for the above pic ? Crap! Guess not. I'm not a member of the peaceful religion of Islam !

 

[xUT]

Buddhas of Bamiyan

They were dynamited and destroyed in March 2001 by the Taliban, on orders from leader Mullah Mohammed Omar, after the Taliban government declared that they were "idols". International opinion strongly condemned the destruction of the Buddhas, which was viewed as an example of the intolerance of the Taliban. Japan and Switzerland, among others, have pledged support for the rebuilding of the statues.

The statue in question was erected by WWII Veterans in what they believed in at the time.

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When I visited it earlier this year, I saw first-hand that this memorial is an irreplaceable part of our state’s history and a unique and colorful part of the local culture. The Forest Service’s denial of the lease defies common sense. Using a tiny section of public land for a war memorial with religious themes is not the same as establishing a state religion. That’s true whether it’s a cross or a Star of David on a headstone in the Arlington National Cemetery, an angel on the Montana Vietnam Memorial in Missoula or a statue of Jesus on Big Mountain. The Forest Service is just flat wrong to deny this lease on those grounds, and I’m working hard to get them to do the right thing.” - Congressman Denny Rehberg

Since Arlington is on federal land, do you propose to erradicate the crosses and star of david from their headstones as well?

When do we start burning books that have a religious symbols in them?

B) xUT