Insight Into The Iam

[diogenes]

Just some interesting highlights from the April D141 Messenger, the IAM newsletter.

Of the 8 senior officers, only 1 is from US – the recently appointed gentleman from PHL. The others are UA, with perhaps one from Aloha or Hawaiian.

Of the 22 assistant general chairmen, only 4 are US – one from PHL, one from PIT, and two from BOS (what have these guys got against southerners? Anybody ever hear of CLT?) The other 18 AGC’s are mostly from UA.

Interestingly, the UA AGC’s have been assigned to cover many of the US stations. NO US AGC’s have been assigned ANY UA stations. One wonders where the UA AGC’s acquired the knowledge of the US contract necessary to enforce it – oh, wait, the current contract can be written on a cocktail napkin. I also wonder why the US AGC’s are incapable of enforcing the UA contract anywhere?

Moreover, the PIT US AGC has been assigned PIT and JAX, one BOS AGC assigned to BWI and RDU, one BOS AGC got CLT, BOS, MHT and PVD, while the PHL AGC got MCO, FLL, TPA, PBI, DCA, LGA and EWR.

One would divine from this that one of the BOS AGC’s and the one from PIT would be concerned about being ‘rightsized’, as they only have two stations each, and only one airline to cover. Not to fear; according to the Messenger, the former AGC who never arbitrated a case landed a district job. The IAM takes care of their own.

I wonder what the two boys from Philly delivered? They are living large.

The Messenger makes no mention of 22 outsourced US stations.

Make of it what you will

 

[700UW]

The number of AGCs from each property is based on total membership count on that property.

For mechanic and related at 142 there are only 4 general chairman for 2,000+ active employees.

 

[D M G]

according to the Messenger, the former AGC who never arbitrated a case landed a district job. The IAM takes care of their own.

I wonder what the two boys from Philly delivered? They are living large.

[post="265301"][/post]​

Who landed a district job?

The were 2 AGCs from PHL as well as the VP at Large (who gets AGC pay when doing AGC work, which is always).

Canale has been very good to the "yes" men from PHL.

 

[delldude]

The Messenger makes no mention of 22 outsourced US stations.

Make of it what you will

[post="265301"][/post]​

good news travels faster by word of mouth,must be trying to save money.... 😉

 

[RedOne]

Diogenes I must confess that I usually do not read the "Messenger." It usually goes straight from my mailbox to my trashcan. Since I did not read it, I can only guess who got the promotion...based on "the former AGC who never arbitrated a case landed a district job. The IAM takes care of their own."...I would have to guess Mr. Moore. Am I correct?
My trash pickup is today. I just pulled this months "Messenger" out of the bin and the front page was all ....UA. Page 2 was the same. Page 3 ?????? I didn't look at. I just threw it back into the trash.

 

[700UW]

Mr Moore was removed as AGC over a year ago and is now the district organizer.

 

[RedOne]

"Removed"???????????? now "district organizer". Promotion or demotion? Payraise or as with (I think) all who were under his leadership....a pay reduction? Derserved?

 

[delldude]

Diogenes I must confess that I usually do not read the "Messenger." It usually goes straight from my mailbox to my trashcan. Since I did not read it, I can only guess who got the promotion...based on "the former AGC who never arbitrated a case landed a district job. The IAM takes care of their own."...I would have to guess Mr. Moore. Am I correct?
My trash pickup is today. I just pulled this months "Messenger" out of the bin and the front page was all ....UA. Page 2 was the same. Page 3 ?????? I didn't look at. I just threw it back into the trash.

[post="265390"][/post]​

thanks for your unwavering support.
of course when and if you get into a jam i'm sure you'll demand any and all resources due you right frigging now. :down:

 

[RedOne]

thanks for your unwavering support.
of course when and if you get into a jam i'm sure you'll demand any and all resources due you right frigging now. :down:

[post="265395"][/post]​

Support? From the IAM????? You gotta be kiddinig. Ask the F/S agents in most if not all of the 22 SMALL stations how much the IAM has done for them. Oh, and I am retired. The IAM never did a thing for me while I was an active employee (except take my dues), they sure as heck aint gonna get a chance to help me now.

 

[700UW]

"Removed"???????????? now "district organizer". Promotion or demotion? Payraise or as with (I think) all who were under his leadership....a pay reduction? Derserved?

[post="265393"][/post]​

Demotion and pay decrease.

 

[RedOne]

Let's see. As an AGC his pay scale was around 90,000 + expenses ...worked out of his home, visited (at least one) of his 6 or so stations about once a quarter. What is it now? Then compare it to what his previous co-workers in GSO are going to make. IAM upper dogs look after their upper dogs....once in, always in. (Do I sound anti-IAM ? Could it be because I got tired of "hearing" look at what we have done for you....but not "seeing" positive evidence what they did for me?) Ok, ok. I know I'm retired, so why should I care?

 

[diogenes]

Now, let us peruse the May DL141 Messenger.

On the front page, above the fold, the GC advises the UA membership that the company is threatening to abrogate the contracts and terminate the pension plan. Familiar, anyone?

Here is the key difference in IAM actions between the UA and US bankruptcies.

From my reading, at UA, the IAM is going to ask for a strike vote PRIOR to any vote regarding last offers. “I will call on our D141 IAM officers from around the country to Chicago for the purpose of preparing for a strike authorization vote and informational meetings.â€￾… “We unanimously recommend that you vote yes to authorize a strike.â€￾

Nowhere in the article is a ratification vote mentioned.

At US, the ratification vote and the strike vote were concurrent. There were informational meetings about the last offer; there was precious little about a strike.

IIRC correctly, at US, AFA and CWA took the same action as IAM-UA – a strike vote WELL ahead of any ratification vote. This gave some leverage to the NC’s, and is one of the reasons those unions fared better at US than the IAM.

And, as I recall, many US-fleet asked that a strike vote be taken, during negotiations, as did AFA..

Make of it what you will.

 

[delldude]

Support? From the IAM????? You gotta be kiddinig. Ask the F/S agents in most if not all of the 22 SMALL stations how much the IAM has done for them. Oh, and I am retired. The IAM never did a thing for me while I was an active employee (except take my dues), they sure as heck aint gonna get a chance to help me now.

[post="265398"][/post]​

duh,you forget the industry leading wages until recently that helped pay for your retirement?
didn't hear you whining until of late......i don't like it either but i paid for one heckuva lot of things including my home.and it was from good wages from IAM negotiated contracts.

 

[diogenes]

What you have here is the story of the blind men and the elephant. What part your hands are on is your 'truth'.

Dude, I have no doubt, that if you are a senior mech, or a fleet agent in PHL, CLT, BOS, LGA or DCA, you can 'live' with the concessions.

Utility and the senior agents in the out stations have a different reality.

With regards to the IAM and fleet pensions; the bulk of the funding for the guys retiring now is a result of the frozen PI/AL plan (frozen in 94), and the 401k monies that they made a lot of the contribution to.

The IAM pension plan kicked in in 2001. Anybody retiring now will get about $150 a month from it.

With regards to dissatisfaction in the ranks, let me boil it down to this.

During the entire term of the initial fleet contract (99-2004), LL2444 did not arbitrate a single grievance for fleet. None of the terminations. None of the blatant, and there were many, violations.

But at the lodge meetings, we heard the D141M AGC recite MANY grievance arbitrations.

One has to wonder, WTF?

Can't blame it all on the AGC, either. Some of these got bucked up past him. To no avail.

In my view, and the reason I started this thread, the IAM was never serious about the small stations from the get-go. There was serious consideration in initial negotiations to NOT represent the out-stations.

And that the pecking order is;

1. Mechs
2. Fleet in the large stations.
3. Utility
4. Outsourced fleet.

Solidarity, anyone?

For management, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[700UW]

A local lodge ie 2444 does not make the decision to arbitrate a grievance.

A local lodge is not in charge of contract administration, that is the districts job.

The AGC makes the decision on each case to arbitrate or not, I know for example, fleet members in CLT had some arbitrations.