Keep Delta My Delta

[Itestwell]

"And don't you dare underestimate DL employees ability to shut down their airline than work for a corporate raider. Government leaders and financiers will walk away from a deal faster than a 2 year old's hand comes off frying pan when DL employees demonstrate how they will scuttle any attempts to take over their company." ---WT


You are kidding? Put down the bottle......

 

[A330US]

Don't anyone bite on this provocative BS. "A330US" is the teenage son of some CLT mechanic.

im not BS btw, and also, so what if im the son of a CLT mechanic, its true, dougie wants the planes for more destinations !
why else would he want widebodies !

 

[700UW]

phx mama,
you truly are naive. DP is interested in nothing except what he can line his own pockets with. Pay raises? Are you nuts? US employees are the lowest paid in the industry and are threatening job actions to get back some of the billions they have given up to make DP fat and happy.

Shut it down? You better believe DL employees will do it. They are smart enough to recognize con artists when they see them and they won't be a part of lining their pocketss.

You are the one who is naive.

Go ahead and do a work stoppage and you will be fired faster then your head would spin, plenty of furloughed airline folks would be ready and able to step right in and replace anyone who is stupid enough to do an illegal walkout.

Go ask the APA how much their Reno Air sick call fiasco cost them or the UAL and NWA AMTs who had injuctions taken out against them.

And yes Doug is all about Doug, at least we have CBAs to protect us and you have nothing, DL at it's whim can do anything they want to the employees except the pilots and you cant do a damn thing about it.

Let me tell you something I have been through four mergers and it is all about the money, what the employees want or do has nothing to do with it, it is all about the money and anyone can file a POR with the court, there is nothing in the law that prevents that from occuring. All DL has is the right to file the first plan.

 

[Bear96]

No. I'm not crazy. I doubt we'll ever get to the point for DL employees to make known what they would do but the history of the airline industry OVERWHELMING shows that hostile takeovers do not work. DL and its employees will march hand in hand to make sure anyone that messes with either of their best interests knows anyone that participates in corporate raiding will lose their shirt. The little button campaign is not about emotions - it's about cold hard cash. And DL employees know full well how to bring it to a grinding halt.

Are these the same little timid DL employees that are too scared to even vote in a union?

Yet now all of a sudden they see the light about the powers of collective action, to heck with the consequences?

Yeah right.

 

[DLFlyGirl]

Are these the same little timid DL employees that are too scared to even vote in a union?

Yet now all of a sudden they see the light about the powers of collective action, to heck with the consequences?

Yeah right.

Let history speak for itself here folks. Douugie is out smarting you and your unions. You'll find yourselves without a union to hide behind. You'll be merged into the Delta and remember DELTA doesn't have a union.


Delta merged with Western who had a union but when they became DL employees the left the contract behind.

When DL toook on the uniionized Pan Am workers once again their contradct was left behind.

There has never been a reason for DL to have a union. Our management as treated us fair enough to keep it out. If there were then Western and PA employees would have fought for one.


Sadly for you huys you've haven't the luck of good management for years hence the need for someone to speak for you.

Delta benefits are still superior to US's so what has your union done for you that Delta management hasn't done for us?

 

[Charlie_Tuna]

Let history speak for itself here folks.

This history will be a little different. Delta ain't doing the buying so you can forget about Delta deciding what to leave behind.

 

[Bear96]

Let history speak for itself here folks. Douugie is out smarting you and your unions. You'll find yourselves without a union to hide behind. You'll be merged into the Delta and remember DELTA doesn't have a union.
Delta merged with Western who had a union but when they became DL employees the left the contract behind.

When DL toook on the uniionized Pan Am workers once again their contradct was left behind.

There has never been a reason for DL to have a union. Our management as treated us fair enough to keep it out. If there were then Western and PA employees would have fought for one.
Sadly for you huys you've haven't the luck of good management for years hence the need for someone to speak for you.

Delta benefits are still superior to US's so what has your union done for you that Delta management hasn't done for us?

Who is "you"? I don't work for USAirways, nor am I a union member.

 

[Charlie_Tuna]

Go ahead and do a work stoppage and you will be fired faster then your head would spin, plenty of furloughed airline folks would be ready and able to step right in and replace anyone who is stupid enough to do an illegal walkout.


And yes Doug is all about Doug, at least "we" have CBAs to protect "us"

Would that make them scabs?

What does the "we" and "us" mean? I thought you left and were removed from seniority list?

Don't let the facts get in your way.

the history of the airline industry OVERWHELMING shows that hostile takeovers do not work.

I must have missed all those airline hostile takeovers. Can you tell me what hostile takeovers you are referring to and please don't skimp I want to be OVERWHELMED

And don't you dare underestimate DL employees ability to shut down their airline than work for a corporate raider. Government leaders and financiers will walk away from a deal faster than a 2 year old's hand comes off frying pan when DL employees demonstrate how they will scuttle any attempts to take over their company.

Shut it down? You better believe DL employees will do it. They are smart enough to recognize con artists when they see them and they won't be a part of lining their pocketss.

By God I think he's got it. You let the cat outta bag. That was Dougs plan all along. Pick up the scraps.

Who is this Worldtraveler he sures lights up a board. A reincarnation of 320?

 

[700UW]

Charlie Charlie Charlie.

It is about the topic not I.

And they are non-union so they do not have the legal right to strike.

And it was a typo, wow, I love how you cant stick to the topic and you try to make it about me.

 

[Whatnow?]

<_< "Keep Delta My Delta"....hmmm for all you Delta folk down yonder in the South.....here's a news flash....USAirways don't want you neither! If USAirways employees were to wear buttons they would say "PLEASE, Keep Delta YOUR Delta".....unfortunately....the USAirways folks will SOON be wearing buttons that say..."Delta OUR Delta"! Be careful Kharma is a bi@#h to deal with when it comes around again!

 

[deltaflyboy]

After the jerking around the DL folks are getting enough of them in a combined workforce would probably vote in a union at this point.

We have watched the non-lubricated screwing that unionized employees have received at other carriers and the majority of us, as always, want no part of that.
Through this whole 9-11 downturn we have weathered the storm the same or sometimes better then the workers who are "protected" under organized labor.

 

[700UW]

And what do you call what DL has done to you all?

At least the unionized employees by law the company has to negotiate with them and then the members vote on it.

At DL they can do whatever they want at anytime and you cant to squat about it. (Excpet the pilots).

 

[AIRWOMAN]

And what do you call what DL has done to you all?

At least the unionized employees by law the company has to negotiate with them and then the members vote on it.

At DL they can do whatever they want at anytime and you cant to squat about it. (Excpet the pilots).

And the dispatchers.

There are ALWAYS 2 sides to the story.......union vs. non union. Ask the AWA employees who are now union and what a screwing they've gotten........by the union and by the company..........a double screwing!!

 

[Charlie_Tuna]

At least the unionized employees by law the company has to negotiate with them and then the members vote on it.

Was that the same law that said company and union negotiate, company goes to BK, company and union negotiate, Judge abrogates contract, company and union negotiate, Company throws out a last offer to union, union throws out the last offer to membership for vote with no recommendation?

Warning don't make this about you and stalking or staying on topic. You brought this issue up.

 

[aislehopper]

Are these the same little timid DL employees that are too scared to even vote in a union?

Yet now all of a sudden they see the light about the powers of collective action, to heck with the consequences?

Yeah right.

Bear:

I agree with you that there will be no collective action that would attempt to shut the airline down. It would not make our position any better.

Where I disagree is with your "scared" comment. The afa is marginally effective at best. At the time of the last vote, we were at or equal to our peers in pay and benefits.

You also have to admit that the afa claims and what it actually does are two different things.

Remember OSHA now? What about "if any one company does away with our pensions we are going to have a nationwide strike?"

Not voting in the afa was not due to timidness or fear, it was a statement that the afa did not meet its burden of proof that it could make a difference.