KommieFornia Strikes again- Drakes Bay Oyster Farm

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Ifly2 said:
On the other hand, Neal Desai, of the National Parks Conservation Association, says that although oysters are normally beneficial creatures, the ones planted by Drakes Bay are neither native to the area (they’re Japanese oysters) nor are they being restored. Rather, he says, they’re being planted, on wooden racks (the sandy beds of Point Reyes are not to their liking) in such quantities as to overwhelm the estero. The water quality from Point Reyes is generally high enough that the oysters’ filtration is simply filtering out nutrients, he says. And owner Lunny was planting non-native, invasive Manila clams along with the oysters, which may be escaping from their beds and going feral.
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LOL,

Yes I knew that, so what?
"ATTACK of The Feral Clams"... sounds like a drive-in movie from the sixties. :p
Point is (regardless of the legal claim) that it doesn't make a damn bit of sense.
They provided a quality product for 3/4 of Northern California and employed over 100+ people.

In such a recluse and isolated area, what's the big deal?

Growing 'Japanese' oysters as an argument is laughable as well.
Crap, we import all kinds of plants, sea life, etc... from all over the world.
Fact is the Japanese oysters are tastier than the Kommiefornia variety.

Sure, the guy made money, it is a business after all.

Tell the employees that will lose their jobs and the businesses that will have to pay higher prices for a lower quality product what they think.

And we wonder why businesses take their opportunities elsewhere.
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xUT said:
All the information is in the OP link.
Don't blame me if you didn't read it.
Of course only a Prickwould think this way.
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I read the link as well as a few other sources. You chose to cherry pick the sections that supported your POV, and that is what I was commenting on.

The reality of the situation is that as Fly said, the owners knew what was coming and now they are not happy that they could not change the out come. To bad for them.
 
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Invasive species not indigenous to the area can be very damaging to the ecosystem. Look at zebra clams, Asian Carp to mention a few.
 
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Indigenous Species:

How did rice get to the U.S.A. ?
There are several stories regarding the introduction of rice to America.
One talks of a dutch ship that in 1694 set sail from Madagaskar.
Storm-battered, it took refuge in South Carolina's Charleston
Harbour, Charleston's inhabitants gave the crew a warm welcome and
helped repair the ship. The departing ship's English Captain expressed
his gratitude to the community by presenting it with a sample of his
cargo, 'Golde Seed Rice'. These precious rice seeds were the forerunners
of a now famous rice type - 'Carolina Golde'.
South Carolina became the first American state to farm rice although,
following the Civil War it ceased to do so and rice farming moved
westward to Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas
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Potatoes in the United States:

Potatoes arrived in the Colonies in 1621 when the Governor of Bermuda, Nathaniel Butler, sent two large cedar chests containing potatoes and other vegetables to Governor Francis Wyatt of Virginia at Jamestown. The first permanent potato patches in North America were established in 1719, most likely near Londonderry (Derry), NH, by Scotch-Irish immigrants. From there, the crop spread across the country.

Idaho, the present-day largest producer of potatoes, actually did not begin growing potatoes until 1836, when missionaries moved west in an effort to teach the native tribes to grow crops instead of relying upon hunting and gathering methods. However, it wasn’t until 1872 when the Russet Burbank variety was developed, that the Idaho potato industry began to flourish.
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Yes, let's get rid of these non indigenous species and see how long we last... :p
B) xUT
 
cltrat said:
they're liberals xUT they really can't help themselves
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They think they are superior... LOL

The Surprising History of America's Wild Horses


These recent findings have an unexpected implication. It is well known that domesticated horses were introduced into North America beginning with the Spanish conquest, and that escaped horses subsequently spread throughout the American Great Plains. Customarily, such wild horses that survive today are designated "feral" and regarded as intrusive, exotic animals, unlike the native horses that died out at the end of the Pleistocene. But as E. caballus, they are not so alien after all. The fact that horses were domesticated before they were reintroduced matters little from a biological viewpoint. Indeed, domestication altered them little, as we can see by how quickly horses revert to ancient behavioral patterns in the wild.
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:p
 
Ms Tree said:
We can't live with out potatoes and rice?
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Why don't you just say you have no argument?
Better yet, say nothing at all.
The list of the foods you eat (and even grow in your little victory garden) are not indigenous to North America.
The claim to close down a business because it is farming food not indigenous to the area is 'quite' stupid!
Americans would starve without these foods.
Of course you can give the baby soy milk instead of cows milk, but oops, soy beans are not indigenous to North America either.... :p
But that's how you clowns roll.
Look it up!
 
How about we distinguish between invasive and non-invasive? Animals that can roam free which are not indigenous can be very destructive. Zebra mussels and Japanese Carp are two that come to mind. Oysters farmed out on the open ocean may also be invasive and destructive. Crops can be contained or genetically altered so they cannot self propagate. I do not know that the state claimed that the oysters were or were not invasive. I only brought that up as a possibility.

All of this is moot regarding the OP. The owner knew the lease would expire. Figured that it would be renewed even though they were told no. Now they are losing the lease and are pissed. Oh well. Though crap. They rolled the dice and lost. Next.
 
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Ms Tree said:
How about we distinguish between invasive and non-invasive? Animals that can roam free which are not indigenous can be very destructive. Zebra mussels and Japanese Carp are two that come to mind. Oysters farmed out on the open ocean may also be invasive and destructive. Crops can be contained or genetically altered so they cannot self propagate. I do not know that the state claimed that the oysters were or were not invasive. I only brought that up as a possibility.

All of this is moot regarding the OP. The owner knew the lease would expire. Figured that it would be renewed even though they were told no. Now they are losing the lease and are pissed. Oh well. Though crap. They rolled the dice and lost. Next.
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Because it's 'stupid'!
The only access to the area is by the oyster shell road that they built.
If you knew the area, or anything else, you might agree.
B) xUT
 
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