Lcc's What A Bunch Of Bull....

quote=SpinDoc,Jun 23 2005, 11:27 PM

U controls 95% of the traffic out of CLT, locals cry and whine like little babies with poop in their pants about the airfares..

Here, here! Excellent point. Stop whining you
CLT locals. If you don't like the fares, you can
always drive to GSO and connect through CLT
on a cheap ticket.

Oops. Never mind. The brain dead dumb azzes
in schedule planning are looting GSO and handing
market share over to DL like there is no tomorrow



No worries CLT locals, even though US Air has pulled all her mainline flights out of NC’s fast growing city GSO, you can still head over there for a cheap ticket through ATL. Delta is adding a new terminal for you. In addition to there hourly mainline service to ATL Comair is opening a huge new crew base and maintenance facility.
 
ClueByFour said:
U is only that cheap on the route because of Airtran. Last year, U would have asked $900.

Reality check at 11.
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Economics 101. Supply and demand. Duh!

The CLT whiners need to take a good, long look at the truly magnificent skyline that has grown out of the little podunk NC town and realize that it would not exists if not for the USAirways (previously Piedmont) hub which exists there.

Do they really think those banks would have chosen to make CLT the biggest banking complex between NY and ATL without extensive, convenient airline service? (Actually, those whining nitwits probably do think that CLT's growth has been on its own merits.) If not for the airline hub, CLT's claim to fame would be the most truck stops per capita.
 
nycbusdriver said:
Economics 101. Supply and demand. Duh!

The CLT whiners need to take a good, long look at the truly magnificent skyline that has grown out of the little podunk NC town and realize that it would not exists if not for the USAirways (previously Piedmont) hub which exists there.

Do they really think those banks would have chosen to make CLT the biggest banking complex between NY and ATL without extensive, convenient airline service? (Actually, those whining nitwits probably do think that CLT's growth has been on its own merits.) If not for the airline hub, CLT's claim to fame would be the most truck stops per capita.
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In other words good citizens of Charlotte....F*** You.
 
That is not true, a friend of mine flew on US to LAX round trip for under $300.

Major corporations have moved to Charlotte because of the hub here, people have the choice not to fly on US. CLT is now the #2 gateway to the Carribean.

Go ask BOA or Goodrich why they moved to CLT for their HDQs.

For a city its size CLT has more non-stop destinations then any other city as the same size.

And the 7,000 US Employees in CLT don't set the fares, and don't forgot how money having a hub in CLT add to its economy.

Air transportation is an important job for the airport, but it is not the only one.  Charlotte Douglas International Airport also contributes nearly $4 billion in annual total economic impact to the Charlotte region, according to a report prepared in April 1997 by the UNC Charlotte Urban Institute.

In addition, over 72,000 jobs in the region are directly or indirectly related to the airport and its services.  Workers in those jobs earn $1.968 billion in wages and salaries.  To prepare this estimate, the Urban Institute used methodology developed by the Federal Aviation Administration that has become the generally accepted standard for this type of research. 

The airport is currently working with the UNC Charlotte Urban Institute to conduct a new Economic Impact Study. Results are expected to be finalized by the end of this year. 
 
Since ALB, BUF, and ROC all have some kind of LCC offerings, a better comparison to CLT-BUF would be CLT-SYR... which only has jetBlue... and since jetBlue does not fly to CLT, there is now LCC competition on the city-pair.

US Airways lowest roundtrip fare leaving in the next three days is $880 before taxes.
 
KCFlyer said:
In other words good citizens of Charlotte....F*** You.
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Not at all.

Ya want prime rib, ya pay for prime rib.

Ya wanna pay ground chuck prices, ya get ground chuck.

If keeping the prices low is the only important thing, the hub will probably go bye-bye, along with much potential for CLT economic growth. Ya gets what ya ask for.

Economics 101.
 
nycbusdriver said:
Not at all.

Ya want prime rib, ya pay for prime rib.

Ya wanna pay ground chuck prices, ya get ground chuck.

If keeping the prices low is the only important thing, the hub will probably go bye-bye, along with much potential for CLT economic growth. Ya gets what ya ask for.

Economics 101.
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YOu know, for a while there, the leaders of Kansas City kept trying to get an airline to hub here (though the airport sucks as a hub operation, thank heavens). Then the city leaders find that Kansas City is one of the lowest fare markets in the nation - due largely to the fact that we don't have a hub here. But....we do have an awful lot of non stop flights to an awful lot of cities. Sort of the best of both worlds.
 
coachrowsey said:
May the mods send you back to the cornfield again
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The mods never sent me to "the cornfield" in the first place. But where in my response did I not capture the essence of the post that I was replying to?
 
nycbusdriver said:
Not at all.

Ya want prime rib, ya pay for prime rib.

Ya wanna pay ground chuck prices, ya get ground chuck.

If keeping the prices low is the only important thing, the hub will probably go bye-bye, along with much potential for CLT economic growth. Ya gets what ya ask for.

Economics 101.
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Who can afford prime rib anymore? Isn't supply and demand part of economics 101. U still owns the east coast but for BWI. In CLT they can charge they what they want because the have the Majority of flights. Even if Jetblue and Southwest were to enter the CLT market the impact to U would be small. How much has Southwest really effected U's business at PHL or PIT for example?
 
KCFlyer said:
YOu know, for a while there, the leaders of Kansas City kept trying to get an airline to hub here (though the airport sucks as a hub operation, thank heavens). Then the city leaders find that Kansas City is one of the lowest fare markets in the nation - due largely to the fact that we don't have a hub here. But....we do have an awful lot of non stop flights to an awful lot of cities. Sort of the best of both worlds.
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You're right. KC really is a great location (geographically speaking ONLY) for a hub. The runway configuration is also prime. The terminals, alas, would need major redesign.

But it seems like you folks in KC are happy with the mix you have at MCI, and I'm glad for that. But an airline hub is a primary reason that CLT and the central Carolinas have enjoyed the huge economic boom that they have for the past 20 years. And KC? Well, enjoy the economic doldrums and your "adequate" air transportation.
 
nycbusdriver said:
You're right. KC really is a great location (geographically speaking ONLY) for a hub. The runway configuration is also prime. The terminals, alas, would need major redesign.

But it seems like you folks in KC are happy with the mix you have at MCI, and I'm glad for that. But an airline hub is a primary reason that CLT and the central Carolinas have enjoyed the huge economic boom that they have for the past 20 years. And KC? Well, enjoy the economic doldrums and your "adequate" air transportation.
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Guess the only places without economic doldrums are Dallas, Houston, Philly, Denver, Chicago, Cleveland, and Minneapolis. Pretty much every other city doesn't have a hub. If the cure for economic doldrums is an airline hub, how about putting a hub in every city and just offer point to point service? What we may lack in the economic engine of an airline hub, we offset by being an affordable location for conventions, and yes, businesses who find that a change of planes to the cities we can't get nonstop service to isn't too big a price to pay.

Just looked in today's paper and noticed that the lowest fare to Dallas from KC is double the lowest fare to Chicago. Only difference being the presence of a low fare carrier on the Chicago route.
 
nycbusdriver said:
If keeping the prices low is the only important thing, the hub will probably go bye-bye, along with much potential for CLT economic growth. Ya gets what ya ask for.

Economics 101.
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You may want to look around the next time you find yourself in RDU.
 
700UW said:
CLT is now the #2 gateway to the Carribean.

Sorry, but JFK and MIA are still the #1 and #2 gateways, unless you're only looking at connecting traffic as a metric...

700UW said:
Go ask BOA or Goodrich why they moved to CLT for their HDQs.

BOA moved there because Nations Bank (long time corporate resident of CLT) was the acquirer in that deal, and BOA was the name that was kept. Sound familiar?...
 
NationsBank could have made the decision to keep BOA's HDQ in SFO but they chose not too.

Sound Familar?

And what about Goodrich?